The best jet Britain ever made... and cancelled - TSR-2

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[jamieknight]

Love the TSR2. One of the two remaining prototypes is snuggled up between a Concorde and a Vulcan at duxford. Very fitting :)

[nick_theplaneguy]

I remember asking you about 2-3 years ago on your discord to make a video on this plane. You said you had a long list of video ideas and that you would add the tsr2 to it.
It's great to see you have kept motivated and have been putting amazing effort into making videos on every vehicle in that long list since.
Keep it up Nick!

[flymacseamus]

This is one of the most elegant birds ever made... I mean, I generally love what the French do for sheer grace (Dassault's "if it's pretty it'll fly well") but this is one case where I feel the Brits out-graced the French

[kitbag]

Controversial comment warning.
I believe the RAF dodged a bullet when TSR2 was cancelled. I think the avionics at low level wouldn't have survived the buffet, relying on valves over transistors. Integrated circuits didn't exist. The thing looks to be a maintenance nightmare and the crew's vision and situational awareness were incredibly limited for an aircraft at low level, especially if there's a bandit on its tail. The engines were powerful and very immature, eventually being developed for use in the far more benign environment of Condorde. The internal bomb bay was limited in terms of payload, external carriage of stores would have messed up the already limited wing, even with blown flaps.
That's my thoughts, for what they're worth, with the benefit of hindsight.

[garydownes]

Honestly the “greatness” of the TSR2 and the “folly” of canceling it is one of those myths that gets no real critical examination by online “experts”.
It was an empty shell of an aircraft without systems & weapons. It would have cost stupid amounts of money to achieve an inferior aircraft in practical use to jaguars & tornadoes that came later. The British aircraft industry wouldn’t have been saved by it, it would have sucked in every bit of resources and killed the UK participation in multi nation projects and maybe even the development of the Hawk.
The UK simply couldn’t afford to go its own way and potential export customers would have walked away from a doomed program. This myth is a hangover of Tory propaganda against a then new Labour government. A later Thatcher government would have cancelled this too. This context is lost

[meskahmusic]

Ground Air missiles really did a number on magnificent aircrafts of the time

[stealthtecify]

I don’t think you really did the Canberra justice, it’s first flight was 1951 and it served in active service until 2006 in 39 squadron Prussia it was never truly made obsolete in fact it continues to fill its roll as a test bed and photo recon platform to this day,

[urbypilot]

The TSR-2 and the A5 Vigilante are examples of how the current knowledge will result in similarities in design from different groups. Just because you have the same answer, doesn't mean you copied from your classmates.

[emaheiwa]

Planes can break hearts too 💔 F politicians 🖕

[leeroyloke]

I'm now curious about the Canberra bomber and its Soviet counterpart, the Il-28 Beagle. Any chance you could consider covering both of these jet bombers?

There is something very engaging about these types of post-WW2, twin-engine jet bombers. I think it was due to the WW2-era German Arado twin-engine jet bomber and how both British and Soviet designs looked like perfected counterparts/successors of the German WW2 Arado example.

[ka-botachannelaboutaviation]

The F-111 was much better than TSR 2and it symbolized the lagging of the European aviation industry from the American one, which began in the second half of the 1950s

[Cris-wksv]

Extraordinario video. El comentario final de Sir Sydney Camm lo dice todo. Qué extraordinaria

[myplane]

TSR2 with modern engines, avionics, fly by wire, etc... Damn! That could be a game changer...☺

[andrewmontgomery]

My dad actually got the chance to see one flying when it was test flown.

[gabausaurus]

Bro got war thunder test flight vocal at the start of the vid

[alfiebutterworth-cuys]

Yes he did the video I requested!!!
BTW I have seen this beautiful aircraft in the raf aerospace Cosford museum

[najmicreativetv]

she had the same fate as the canadian arrow, and beauty too

[gort]

The funniest thing about the TSR-2 myth is that the majority of internet fanboys who think the wing loading of the F-104 somehow made it too dangerous to fly and unsuitable for the low level strike role also think the TSR2 that was much heavier with equivalent wing loading was the perfect design for the job.

[Dronte]

F-111 pilots: -You're romanticizing the early automatic terrain following systems.
B-1 pilots: -You're romanticizing the late automatic terrain following systems.
Erich Paul Remark: -You're romanticizing. Period.

[MatejBeranek]

this is probably one of my favorite aircraft, really reminds me of the f-111 aadvark which is also one of my favorites.
such a shame it got cancelled.