Rivian Releases Large+ Battery For Second Gen R1S As A Software Locked Max Pack

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[ELCEV]

Just drove my R1S gen2 1, 000 miles home from the factory, amazing vehicle. And yes if you dig into the menu it states Large+. After over 2 years with the Model Y I am blown away with the Rivian. So happy to move up, even if the technology of the interface is slightly behind Tesla everything else more than makes up for it. I would never consider going back. By the way the delivery team at the Normal, IL factory were absolutely wonderful to work with. 👍👍

[metal_horses]

This is awesome! All the 100% charge benefits of a LFP but with higher range and performance

[daadreeb]

Shouldn’t the fast charging curve be dramatically better since you’d only technically be charging to 80% of real capacity on the “Large+”. I’m fine with concept, but I’d definitely want to know which I’m buying since I see value in the "Large+" over the Large.

[darinbrazil]

This is great news this is exactly what I was thinking they should do as long as they allow you to unlock the extra capacity. This allows one to buy a large pack in a R1T and keep the configuration in a price that qualifies for the tax credit which then subsidizes the price to unlock to a max pack should Rivian decide to allow the unlock. However I think the better way to purchase would be to lease it for 2 or 3 years and then buy it from Rivian after the lease as Kyle has pointed out you get the full $7500 credit and then you buy the vehicle after the lease at a depreciated price. Although I don't know how depreciation works for a lease but I would think Rivian would rather sell the vehicle to you at market value rather then take it back and wait to find a buyer for it.

[glenn-vy]

It's a winner. You get the full advertised mileage for everyday driving vs only 70-80% for other batteries. The only "downside" is you don't get "xtra" range for long road trip.

[frankcoffey]

The software lock max pack idea is a good one because even if the first owner doesn't want the extra range the second or third owner might and that brings in additional revenue long after the vehicle was sold and that would increase as the number of cars in operation increases. In the past all the profit from used cars went to the dealer and the automaker got nothing but warranty risk. If you have software locked features that gives the automaker a chance to get in on the used market profit.

[omarastacio]

I actually like the idea as long as they are up front with what they are doing for all the reasons stated in video. If they don't change the DCFC curve it would potentially make a better road tripper

[ElectricBrian]

Battery information needs to be on the "Window Sticker, " and that needs to be visible for all new car purchases, before paying any money, even if online.
The information should show the battery chemistry, total kWh, and usable battery kWh.

[urbanstrencan]

This is good thing, you can get cheaper vehicle now and upgrade later if you need more range.
Another great video 😊❤

[eb.]

If you get the buffer for free. And you can charge to 100% daily, why unlock at a few thousand dollars price. You already have the most useful benefit for free. Even when you roadtrip you only would make use of the unlocked extended range for the first charge from home.

[mikesciturro]

I'm stlll confused on charging to 100%. I have not seen any official confirmation that all battery cells are locked to 80% as opposed to one module of cells are locked and unusable. If there is a module turned off and the remaining cells are fully utilized, charging to 100% daily would be detrimental. Have you received confirmation on how the locking is obtained or are you assuming.

[oury]

Seems this is the same behavior from the Gen 1 Standard+ pack. If so, I’d assume these owners would also be presented with an option to upgrade it to a large/max? I asked Rivian for a comment and was presented the latest news page.

[notsecure]

Will the charging curve of Large+ improve then? or they will just use same charging profile as the Large?

[pfunk]

I suspect the real Gen2 large pack is going to be a new generation LFP that simply isn't ready yet

[EVandMe]

I bought the Gen 1 Standard+, I got what I paid for. Just because the capacity is there. If I needed that extra range, I should have paid for it

[stevenschmidt]

Are these owners able to charge to 100% with the same confidence as we normally just charge to 80%? If so, that's a plus even before upgrading.

[MegaHops]

It's good for the customer and for Rivian. Options later down the line are a good thing. Its one of the superior differences between EV and ICE platforms

[davidbaker]

This is a good move for customers assuming the EPA range of 330 is reflective of the extra weight. I don't mind unlocking the extra range either one time or monthly isn't a big deal. They do need to update the website though.

[lawngnomes]

Do software locked packs charge better as you get closer to the "max" capacity?

[darinbrazil]

They aren't loosing money, let's remember that the Max pack is just a Large pack in the first place with just more energy dense cells inside so the cost variance should very close to nothing. I love how quickly your minds have been formed into believing this is a Max Pack, they have never built a Max Pack they have only built a Large pack and shoved different cells into it to call it a Max Pack.