Getting into Math Graduate School with B's

In this video I answer a question I received from a viewer. He is almost done with his math degree and has taken tons of math classes. He wants to get a Masters in Math but he has only B's. Do you have any advice? If so, please leave a comment below.

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[Jim-besj]

I've been on graduate committees that look at applications. A 3.0 GPA is okay if it's from a reputable school and important courses like analysis are on the transcript. In addition to having a good GRE score and solid letters of recommendation, showing some kind research done at the undergraduate level will demonstrate to prospective universities that you are prepared to do some original scholarship. Many professors at the undergraduate level would be happy to work with a motivated student on an independent study course for a semester and that would be an ideal setting to do some research and develop a relationship with a professor who could write a nice letter of recommendation.

[nanaeK]

"a lot of effort goes in that 9% range" I felt that.

[jloiben]

I am in a pretty unique situation but I think this may help people, at a minimum, think of what schools to apply to.

I recently got into the applied math masters at Johns Hopkins (it is offered through the engineering school and is meant for professionals). My undergraduate degrees were in business and I am an attorney. Between my law school grades and my business school grades I averaged out to a ~3.1. This got me into a math program at Johns Hopkins.

[ianmorgan]

If you find a descent school you want to get into( not like Harvard or MIT) but a good school. Take some classes as a non degree seeking student and if you do well in the grad classes the department will most likely admit you into the MS program.

[patrickng]

Your shirt matches the books behind you pretty well.😄

[douglasstrother]

Love it or hate it: test taking matters. Good scores on your Subject and General GRE carry a lot of weight.
Building a good rapport with your faculty is also critical.

[AHeroOfAzeroth]

Definitely doable or atleast in US. I had a 2.7 undergraduate gpa at a mid school, applied to multiple phd in 2021 got into none, applied again 2022 (only change in application are 2 new rec letter) and got into 7 different top 100 phd program year 2022 with funding. I ended up going to the highest ranked uni that admitted me(ranked high 40 and currently it’s a group I public)

[zalibecquerel]

Don't forget overseas programs! It seems that half the students in postgrad science in Australia are from overseas (via distance learning, classes via zoom). Basic policy is "If you've got the money, we'll have you!"

[TomokoAbe_]

I think it depends on the university. Even a school is a business and if there are not enough students, they will accept B students (3.0, 3.1, 3.2). However, if they have student applications a plenty, they will only select the upper echelon. Overall State universities cost a LOT LESS than private ones, but have a higher criteria of acceptance. I can only say about a Master's degree, because I never got a pHD. I also have my own house paid off so moving is not an option. I just can't leave my house alone. I worked my job, stayed at home, got my Master's and I owe nothing. That worked best for me. PS: ONLINE courses are a LOT HARDER than in person and exams are proctored.

[degreesnowman]

I got Calculus by Spivak in the mail today 😙 I’m going to use it to supplement my learning. I’m taking my first calculus class this year.

[dimitrioskalfakis]

good and valid points.don't go nuts over your GPA. if you can afford (either financially or emotionally) expand your search to the rest of the US.

[SimonSolves_Math]

Hey sir, quick question: will you ever do a GRE math review? Like go over practice problems from old GRE exams? Thanks!

[TomokoAbe_]

He's right. If you work at a university they WILL pay for your pHD. In fact you will find it mandatory to get one.

[tvstation]

TAMU has a good online program (I'm going to take the Stats masters)...though it's definitely expensive unless you qualify for Texas tuition rates! Perhaps the person asking the question has a college in-state that offers a math (or math adjacent) online masters...In-State tuition makes all the difference!

I don't really think GPA matters much for most masters (maybe for prestigious Ivy leagues?). If you have the background, and are willing to cut a check..I think most schools are happy to take your money!

[ahmedabbas]

Ptolemy 1st Soter, first king of Egypt after the death of Alexander the Great, personally sponsored Euclid, but found Euclid's seminal work, the Elements, too difficult to study, so he asked Euclid to show him an easier way to master it. According to the philosopher Proclus, Euclid famously quipped: "Sire, there is no royal road to geometry."

[douglasstrother]

If you are truly dedicated and aggressive about a Graduate degree (Masters, PhD), what you get out of it depends on what you put into it.

You could have the opportunity to study at "The University of <I never thought of living there>" which is the right place at the right time for you.

[covariance]

I'm glad to see this video as I'm comparable to the original question-asker re: my concerns. My GPA isn't as bad (about to enter 3rd year math undergrad with a cumulative math/stats/computer-sciences GPA = 3.62 currently; and I think if I do well this next semester, I may be able to bump it to 3.67; current percentage average = 84.5; if things go well it could be 85.00).

As a Canadian, I think the school I'm at isn't what I'd consider Tier 1 for math (for that, I would really only put University of Waterloo and University of Toronto in that category) but it is what I'd consider Tier 2 (basically the major universities with international name recognition that *aren't* UofT and Waterloo; e.g., Queen's University, University of Western Ontario, McGill, UBC, UCalgary, McMaster... MAYBE Guelph, but I might put those guys into a Tier 3 category along with York and Ryerson).

I was also lucky enough to secure a summer "research" internship (I put research in quotations because I feel I'm too stupid and useless to contribute meaningfully to anything original and I'm really just dead weight) for a topic pertaining to statistical/machine learning.

I really want to get into a grad program for statistics, particularly the same one that I'm currently doing my undergrad in because I would save a lot of money in this manner relative to doing grad school in another city (because then I would have to relocate etc.)

But this video is, like math sorc says, inspiring me to broaden my horizons.

I'm Canadian (living in Ontario) but perhaps I should indeed consider some schools in the US. Can anyone recommend me some schools that might be amenable to my GPA (let's assume I don't do so well in the next 2 years and drop down to 3.5) that (as math sorc says) is sufficiently generous with their funding so that I can live without a roommate? I'm really tired of losing so much energy worrying about roomates' being unhygenic and inconsiderate.

Bonus points if you can suggest a school that will have a culture similar to the Canadian culture to which I'm accustomed (e.g., I might be uncomfortable at a school in the bible belt).

[jbbentley]

Getting all those Bs they’ll call you 🐝

[steel-qfwp]

No employer or coworkers could care less about your GPA. All that matters is how good you are your position. Can you think out of the box. GPA is for high schoolers. That's not the real world.

[Cyclonus-fcxx]

Hello, nice video I was wondering if you could consider reviewing Yeh J's Real Analysis: Theory Of Measure And Integration it's a measure theory book at the graduate level and what's surprising is that it has a full solutions manual by the author although sold separately, it's huge around 800 pages so it covers a lot of graduate analysis