Avowed - Story & Lore Speculation After Playing It (& PoE1/2)

Talking about where I think the story and lore of Avowed might be going after putting the first couple of hours of the game into context with Pillars of Eternity 1&2

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[palchristianandersen]

Damn. I forgot how good PoE 2 looks. What a gorgeous game.

[theexpatriate]

"nah baby, that fungal growth down there is a gift from the gods i'm telling you" damn no wonder they didn't go for romance scenes in this game

[davidnoble]

Fungus, death, decay, maybe represents the death and decay of the gods and you (and the "God" you are associated with) are the instrument of transformation into something new.

[kaidorade]

I really like the combat animations here. They feel surprisingly fluid

[zennim]

there is always a chance that this new rot god went through something like what abydon did, ondra buried them

it may be that abydon wasn't the first god that was "erased" or made to be "forgotten", but in their case the process was much more final and complete

i didn't play it so i don't know for sure, but maybe these godless may just chosen to not follow the engwithan pantheon, they knew them, but chose to be atheistic

the pantheon, once it was formed, basically went old testament and cleaned the slate of the world, they persecuted and subjugated all cultures that didn't worship them, ondra making sure that they were all very much forgotten after it

also, the living lands is quite the special place, it was always wild like that apparently, maybe that is because of a titan? a titan can have influence on its surroundings even while it is dormant, if this rot god was beaten and subjugated before abydon first death, maybe his titan is buried somewhere in the living lands, maybe his prison is flawed and this god power leaks, causing the wild phenomena of the region, and maybe, because the wheel was broke, the prison lost its energy source and it is now much weaker, hence the rot god waking up too

the question than is "why", why would this god be erased? as well reminded, rot is source of death and life, end of the old, fertiliser for the new

a god of revolution, a god that would embody the revolutionaries of the enwithans, the ones that came up with the idea of creating a new systems, that is something that the pantheon clearly lacks, it has no god of change, berath is of cycles, of status quo, woedica of law, skaen of slaves and rebellion, but there isn't any god that represents progress, that represents renewal and revolution, one that would be the first to bring an end to the status quo created by the pantheon, who would advocate for a new system long before eothas

that may also be why they are waking up, because they are needed, the other gods are preparing the stage for this new god return, so they can fix the lack of the wheel

[C.Malefac]

I've started pillars 1 again after watching the last Avowed video 😁 Eora is such a great setting

[MartianHomebody]

I can't tell you how nice it is to have a games critic/youtuber that is also as into the Pillars games as I am. Feels like those games (both, but Pillars 2 especially) got such short shrift for how fantastic they were.

[Jimbot]

I do appreciate how ambiguous things are at the end of Deadfire. Eothas did some sort of an accelerationist action because the way things were set up forced entropy would eventually make all these souls break down so much that they wouldn't be viable for any kith. The engwithans took what was a natural cycle of the world and completely ruined it, taking souls and stripping parts from them to fuel the constructs they created.

Yeah, things are bad but the way Eothas can either pity or inspire all of kith gives them an edge that no one else had and one over the constructs that care little for kith and only see them as fuel. It's a bittersweet and awesome ending, much like the whole rest of the game.

[LilFeralGangrel]

Okay I like idea of there being some kind of entity like the Gods that actually predate them, something that was woken up by Eothas' fuckery. That sounds really fun.

[KedaiCiplak]

Quite cool to be able to play the Pillars story from a different genre.

[exquisitemeat]

I really like the juxtaposition of a backdrop of metaphysical cycle of life/death and the forefront of a physical cycle.

[rulbiem]

Not gonna lie seeing this wand + gun gameplay is really making me interested in this game.

[theobrominator]

I was cautiously optimistic from the previous previews but the latest one looks so much more refined. Definitely looking forward to it now. The art direction looks really good.

[dom]

I'm getting pretty pumped for this game. Just started a new playthrough of PofE2 last week after the latest round of previews for this came out. Also, I definitely think you're close to the mark with your lore speculation.

[drndrfnz]

Found your channel after I got obsessed with BG3 and figured out how much I like CRPGs even if it’s not the genre I lean towards the most. Really impressed with the quality of your vids. Unsure about Avowed rn but still planning to check it out. Will be sure to watch your content on it tho.

[tehjass]

Great vid. Would love more content like this (lore speculation specific vids), perhaps with some of the other games you have played as well, to give your theory/hypothesis to "unsolved mysteries" in games you have 100%-ed or where you think/would like the story to go next.

[sleightofhand]

I commented previously as i subbed to your channel years ago for poe1 lore. It is my favourite crpg ever. Happy to see this sentiment being echoed in the comments!

[HoODBoy]

In Terms of Fantasy Setups this really Sounds good to me.

[LilFeralGangrel]

I really hope this game ends up doing well. I would rather for Obsidian to stick with CRPGs but I think it would be an absolute shame to not have more people learn about Eora and its amazing worldbuilding.

[Barnaby]

Great vid! I finished Deadfire last night and am excited to see how they will move forward! I do think that to be able to take the world in a new direction, create some interesting new lore, and engage new and old fans, some kind of primordial deity that pre-existed the Engwithan-created pantheon makes a lot of sense.

These theories could probably somehow coalesce, but I also think it could be something in connection to Wael’s body (or the other Titan bodies for that matter). I’m not entirely sure if it would make sense, but I just played Forgotten Sanctum and noticed how much of the stuff they did with fungi and Maura being infested with spores. My understanding is that the spore infestation isn’t necessarily due to Wael, but interestingly, if you choose to destroy Wael’s body, you get the following ending: “As the corpse decays, it putrefies into a nest of hungry fungal monstrosities…. Vessels that anchor off the Black Isles tend to go missing, only to end up ship-wrecked months or even years later against distant shores.” 🤔

On top of that, it stands to reason that Wael wasn’t the only God who secretly left his Titan form hidden away because none of them really trust each other, and now, especially with the wheel being destroyed, those old bodies are full on dying and rotting more than ever before. It would be really cool if those old remnants of the Gods’ titan forms are somehow creating this new, magical fungi-based life. In this case, it might not be a deity that preexisted the Engiwthans, but one, or multiple, that are being created from the remnants of the old. I’m probably missing something, but I think there could be something there!