Jordan Peterson SCHOOLS Feminist Bill Maher on Patriarchy

Bill Maher hosted Jordan Peterson on his podcast and they spent most of the time debating about God and religious belief. Maher asked Peterson why he’s trying to revive the “dead hooker” that he believes religion to be. Maher said that he believes human beings will not leave the medieval period until there are no theists left on Earth, and finally, what I’m going to talk about here, he said that patriarchal structure of marriage and the call for women to be obedient and gracefully submit to men is primitive and quote “out of step…”

Listen to what he says here in this clip, and pay attention to Jordan school him with facts over what women need from men and what a good and proper relationship between a man and woman should be…

I’ll then finish with why we need to suck these feminist beliefs out of the minds of men.

[natethegr]

What's the opposite of submissive? Combative?
Is that really an attitude that's conducive to a successful relationship?

[donnasherwood]

i clck on these to hear the guests not zach costello predominating the video

[jeanetteb]

What about letting a couple find out for themselves how they want to structure the marriage? I was born in a family where the husband was higher in status. They had a rotten marriage and I was deeply miserable.

[wmr]

Nowhere in the bible does it say a wife should be obedient. Obedience is for children, not wives. If you're going to have a youtube channel discussing the bible you should understand it first. Marriage partners are to be mutually submissive and respectful. The husband being the head and the wife not as an obedient child but as his partner. You cannot have friendship and true intimacy if one always feels lesser than the other. You are mixing up submission with obedience and you shouldn't even speak on the subject until you understand it better.

[GerardBurke-fkso]

Bill Maher is so immature that it is incredible.

[moontheloon]

Maher probably thought he could keep up with Peterson. He is such an arrogant ass the he didn't realize that he was going to get schooled by peterson

[thermalreboot]

Bill Maher is the definition of the Dunning Kruger effect. He actively assisted in creating the woke culture that threatens to consume us.

[docsavage]

The further away from patriarchy we get, the more obvious it becomes why we need it

[nourishflourishflow]

But let's be clear on what a 'head of a household' is...this is not an oppressive or controlling role. It is a role based in love and protection. I think when that distinction is made, it becomes hard to argue with.

[bradpirochta]

I'm 50... Marr is not THAT much older than me. it always surprises me how Marr lives under a rock on some topics.

[sammygoodnight]

When a man gets a god job, he thinks, "Great! Now I can support a family."
When a woman gets a good job, she thinks, "Great! Now I can support myself."
I've never heard of a counter example

[robertedwards]

What is left out of the quote “wives submit to your husbands” when men use it as a cudgel and women get upset over, is the second half of the quote “husbands love your wives as Christ loves the church”. Excerpting from Ephesians 5. Christ did not come and oppress or subjugate the church. He came to build it up, love it, support it, advance it, correct it when needed so that as many as possible can be saved.

[docsavage]

Schooling Bill Maher is easy given Maher is utterly ignorant on everything except marijuana probably.

[TimBitts]

Wise video.

Old Boomer comment: I remember Elvis Presley. All the screaming women, at his concerts. You can still see this on you tube, his old concerts. What did it mean? I think I see it now: Who showed up at his concerts? Women, mostly. Young women, mostly. Screaming young women. Wetting themselves, over wanting Elvis the Pelvis, we called him. Why did this happen? Elvis was in the top of the chart for attractiveness for men, fame & fortune. Women found him incredibly attractive. The top men all follow a pattern of attraction to women, explained by science now. (The Beatles followed the same pattern of female fans screaming....particularly over Paul & John)

Women found Elvis Presley extremely physically attractive, so tens of thousands would pay to hear him sing. It was mostly women showing up, at his concerts. When Elvis appeared on Ed Sullivan for the first time, they did not want to film him below the waist, for fear of over exciting the women, as he swayed his hips. The thing is, this attraction pattern doesn't work the other way, for some reason. The camera kept above his waist when his hips were moving, Elvis the Pelvis.

Today? Taylor Swift is in Elvis's league: enormously popular, very attractive to the opposite sex. But at Taylor's concert I'd guess it is entirely mostly women showing up. Why do tens of thousands of women line up to pay money to hear an attractive man sing, but tens of thousands of mostly men don't all line up, to pay money to hear a very attractive female sing? Science figured this out. See you tube channel "Love Made Logical". Video: "8 Charts That Will Change The Way You See Dating"

All these things unpack evolved gender differences. To use a poker term, they are "tells".

The other "tell" about gender differences, is this: Elvis sang about how much he loved women. I'm not a Taylor fan, never heard her music, just heard people talking about her. But Taylor they say, unlike Elvis singing about loving the opposite sex, instead Taylor sings songs complaining about her boyfriends from the past....Taylor sings about complaining about men. What does this tell us? Women are very picky, it's called hypergamy. It's an evolved trait in humans. Dr. Jordan Peterson has explained this. So, young women bought Taylor's music, making her a billionaire who wrote songs, complaining about men. That's a female pattern. Would Elvis have been popular singing songs, complaining about women? Not a chance. Another huge, huge gender difference. Music patterns in superstardom exist because of evolved gender differences.

Also see recent Piers Morgan interview of Jordan Peterson: ""I'd Vote For Trump - I DON'T Trust Harris" Jordan Peterson On Election & 'Criminal' Trans Surgeries" Part of that video, Dr. Peterson unpacks some of the problems with our modern perceptions of gender roles and attraction, based on what science tells us about human attractiveness, between the genders.

As far as religion goes, my background is Christian, raised in a religious family. (I'm still a theist) My observation is that Christianity intuitively understood gender patterns, long before science did. The basic Christian pattern that worked so well, built Western Civilization is that men served women, protected them, looked after their needs in history, in the Christ pattern of sacrifice. This sacrifice got mischaracterized by feminist theories as men supposedly exploiting women, that men had all the power. That's a complete lie. It's a deal. Social structure is a deal between the genders. The one that works best is a two way deal between the sexes, we loosely call Patriarchy.

But this is not a one way deal. Women, as part of that religious deal, submitted to men, as payment to men for their sacrifice, for the women. And this gave Christian men incentive to productively be part of Christian society, since there was a genetic payoff to the men: society shamed loose behavior in women in a Christian society for a good reason, which is women are not naturally loyal to men. So a genetic deal had to be formed, between the genders. The deal was, men provide and protect. Female give the man their loyalty, go against their hypergamy instinct, restrain their behavior, be loyal to one man in marriage, in exchange for that man sacrificing his life in work, for the woman and her offspring, which is expected to be his, as well.

You see that right at the start of the Bible, in Genesis 3:16

And the problem we have today is that we have essentially broken that biological contract, feminist women have rewritten the rules of mating & commitment. They could do this because of the invention of birth control and acceptance of abortion, by men.

For instance look up US Abortion Clock, for the numbers, now in the 70 million American abortion range. And "Morning After" pills have ended about 250 million in the U.S. since its introduction. Most men were written out of the genetic contract between the sexes. They have been disincentivized. Nothing in it, for them, with the introduction of birth control, as female preferences for top men reign supreme now, cutting most men out of the deal. All this brings is a breaking of the genetic deal between the sexes, which was the basis of monogamy and commitment between the genders....and is the underlying assumption behind Christianity, which put in functional moral rules for both genders. That has ended. We've ended that biological deal in our culture, our culture is in free fall. Will we survive this? Time will tell. Jordan Peterson once said, "I'm not sure we will survive the invention of the birth control pill." Smart man.

We knew this, back in the 1960s. It was in a popular song. The group was The Guess Who. The song was "Life in the Bloodstream" Indigoinsf Canada2 The Guess Who - Life in the Bloodstream

[alexegus]

As a cradle Catholic I support the Baptist if they are following those primitive traditions

[GregoryLander]

Maher, every woman in the World is thankful you never got married!

[Chris-govv]

The fact that these people keep having to tip toe around and says these like I’m not making a case for submissive women is already the problem. Stop being scared of women bro

[dorrainecrump]

Jordan Peterson explained that in a way that I understood and learned from. What he says is correct. Women do get "contemptuous" when they are earning and doing more than their spouse. I've seen that with friends and family.

[gamefax]

Simply put, its fostering a familial template that aligns with the instincts of both sexes. It is not about what makes sense logically, its about catering to the instincts that most people would have a hard time contending with over a long period.

[andrepastor]

It’s like Nietzsche having a deep conversation with Bart Simpson.