Why is the 11900K only 8-Core instead of 10? - Probing Paul #58

Why is the 11900K only 8-Core instead of 10? - Probing Paul #58
►TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
1:11 Why is the 11900K only 8-core instead of 10 (like the 10900K)?
5:23 Will GPU names eventually get ridiculously long if they keep counting up?
8:53 What motherboards do they use to test CPUs in development?
10:57 Can you do a garage / studio tour?
12:15 BPS Customs asks: Going to Taiwan this year?
13:39 What’s up with your hair?
14:35 TV show preference for a 2-year-old?
16:12 Was the last Probing Paul pre-recorded?

►LINKS
Anandtech - Intel Previews 11th Gen Core 11900K
WikiChip - Sunny Cove Microarchitecture
Reddit - Engineering Sample Motherboard

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[robertowembley]

Naming schemes are more about the amount of syllables than actual numbers.

[hansbehrends]

This is akin to something you might have observed happening a while ago, lay's potato chips began being sold in the same size bags but containing less chips

[leviathanpriim]

Intel Core i7 - 1185GRE, why the hell are CPUs being named after Monitor model names ?

[spencerwaters]

Hey Paul, I used to work in a manufacturing facility here in the states that created surface mounted circuit boards for aeronautics. I worked in the testing and troubleshooting department and was lucky enough to watch the process of when they are creating and editing a brand new board for mass production. Basically every part on the motherboard can be removed or added by simply soldering the parts. The part I was able to observe was moving of components like audio boards etc. during testing for best placement. One of the techniques the facility I worked in used was a tissue like paper with the board drawn on it before they actually created a physical board. The tissue paper was so they could easily move the 'board' around, not damage anything and mark the paper if a part interferes with any current testing equipment. Before testing and mass production can begin, a company normally establishes a 'gold' sample that would be used as a calibration device for the testing equipment and is considered a perfect example of the product (motherboard, etc.). This might be what to ask about for the 'how do engineering samples get created' question.

[justanotherbrokenerd]

I've worked for a contract circuit board manufacturer for many years. One of the things we would build were small runs of test boards for larger companies. It's common practice, even for companies that build circuit boards on-mass, to use contract manufacturers to build the circuit boards for custom test and/or assembly equipment. Companies like Intel/AMD would usually provide all necessary design documentation (drawings, BOMs, etc) as part of the quote/purchase-order.

[KillSchwill]

After the GeForce 9xxx series back in like 2008, they then restarted the next releases at 1xx and 2xx. So I'm pretty sure they'll do it again but with different lettering in front and after it. But if you actually look at all GPU's up until this point, the naming has been all over the place and super inconsistent. So who knows what crazy names we'll have in the future. RTXZ 180 Mega Super Hulk Ti...

[TheLoganRocha]

I never thought my favorite YouTuber would talk about the company my Dad has been working at for 30 years (Wahl Clipper Co.) 😁 My brother and I have worked there and a bunch of my cousins work there. I can attest that it is a family-owned and oriented business based in my hometown, Sterling, IL, USA!

[Stars-Mine]

Simplified, Sunny Cove is meant to take advantage of the node shrink, puts more transistors into a core of the same physical size. When you dont use the node shrink, the core is physically larger.

so on 14 nm its 8 large cores (sunny cove) vs 10 small cores (Comat lake) in the same die space. Thats also why it has the IPC increase

[christophermullins]

My favorite scenario... I search YT for something I want to know then I find Paul did a video on it. Sweet.

[joaomiguelxs]

Love your content and the way you communicate it, Paul. And yes, your videos are really crisp, even at 1080p as you've heard 1k times before. But, hey! Tell us whats your production pipeline, pls! You and Joe and detail hardware and software, capturing, editing, encoding specs too. Have a great 2021!

[markhackett]

Paul, a suggestion with your child and TV. Think about putting something grown up that you could watch, like a nature program or gardening program, or whatever, as some "sitting together and chilling in each others' arms" with your kid, either you or the missus. The idea is that your daughter will not associate TV with her kids programs for her, that there can be things on that TV that aren't for her, aren't "riveting" for her, but aren't, well, BORING. The TV then doesn't become a treat (like sweets) or a distraction, and that sometimes "watching the TV" isn't about what is on that screen but about being together.
Demystify the TV, basically, and let it be something that she associates with "meh" as much as she'll associate it with the colourful shows she's riveted by.

[waldoishere]

Hey Paul,

Big fan of the channel. My question is has you ever thought about moving your workspace out of your house to try to make more space for organization? It has to be rough having your whole inventory around with no separation from work

[sldr.eggman]

With Kyle creating a new channel. Are you going to continue doing the weekly tech news that you guys stream together

[ndLastJedi]

@Pauls Hardware 15:11 you maybe interested in watching Bluey if available in the States. It's so Aussie and just like raising a family with all the common things that make it so great being a parent... And kid of course.. My kids love it.

[CannonGround]

Hi Paul, love the videos, especially while waiting for human malware's patch to get rolled out! Question: Will we ever see VR-optimized GPU's, similar to how we have workstation-optimized (i.e. Nvidia Quadro/Radeon Pro), gaming-optimized (i.e. RTX/GTX/RX) and the rumored restart of Nvidia's mining-optimized CMP line?

[GregWalrath]

We're all really sorry to hear about Kyle and Heather. I don't know what exactly the situation is with all of you, but please give them our best. We miss them.

[_rickyvids]

Hey Paul what is your thoughts on Nvidia producing more 20 series cards?

[christopherarredondo]

Hi Paul,
I’m an embedded engineer and yes, Intel and amd have teams that work with the teams that make the cpus.
The manufacturing of CPUs is the combination of multiple engineering teams working on different parts of the product.
In the end of the day, Intel design the chipsets for their processors and thus they have their own motherboards to test their new CPUs.
After they finish the final product, motherboard companies use Intel schematics and designes to base their motherboards on.
Just like companies use Nvidia schematics and final design to base their PCBs for graphics cards.

[dbwgoblue]

Might wanna tweak that intro a bit . . . my eyes are starting to hurt when I look down the tunnel too far. But love your content, been subscribed for a while and am always looking for new stuff.

[tylerm.]

I was watching a YouTube video on another channel (sorry! haha) and they were comparing load times for SATA vs PCI gen 3 NVMe and PCI gen 4 NVMe and while there was a huge time difference from SATA to NVMe, there was only a second or two between Gen 3 and Gen 4. Why is this? And when will game developers take advantage of PCI Gen 4 speeds for storage?