Why Rey is a Mary Sue and Luke Skywalker is Not

Rey is the modern poster-girl for a Mary Sue, and here are the reasons why she is one and Luke Skywalker most certainly is not. BTW - may the fork be with you.

[toaryanonicle]

Obi Wan: "Anakin, it's obvious that Rey is a Mary Sue!"
Anakin: "But from my point of view she is a strong independent woman!"
Obi Wan: "WELL THEN YOU ARE LOST!"

[coffeelover]

My theory is that she's actually playing the Lego Star Wars videogame and had unlocked all the cheat codes before starting the storyline.

[tessieract]

My favorite mary sue moment is when shes swimming in the second movie. They made it a point in the first movie to have Rey remark about how green the planet they visit is. That would signify that she has grown up her entire life in a desert, never seeing a forest or large bodies of water. Then when she takes a swim, I'm thinking when did she learn to swim?

[varvaramir]

Even Anakin, literaly the chosen one, created by the force itself, lost to dooku on geonosis.
1. he got his hand cut off
2. he had obiwan (who had 30-something years of training) to help him
3. he´s alredy been training for 10 years.
4. both Anakin and Obiwan would have died if Yoda hadn´t saved the day.
5. even with yoda´s help dooku escaped.

Why?
Because Dooku was one of the best lightsaber duelists in the history of the jedi, a match for grandmaster yoda, and simply meeting the chosen one doesn´t turn him into a clumsy padawan overnight.

[briansheehan]

"You're just intimidated by a strong female protagonist."

I'm pretty sure that most of the people who despise Rey absolutely love Leia and Ashoka.

[hrgunn]

When Ahsoka, an actual strong female character who is loved by the fans, faced a trained sith for the first time, she lasted about 2 seconds and only survived because the sith was hoping to get information from her.
Actually, having Rey be the padawan of Ahsoka could've been a great idea, if it were implemented properly.

[davidclout]

You guys remember when Snoke literally said she was a marry sue to Kylo?

“You were bested by a girl who had never wielded a lightsaber in her life!”

[gyro]

Remember guys.

Don't hate the actors, hate the characters.

[franchobenitez]

And remember kids, to don't talk shit about the actors they don't write the movie, just play the character

[Linguinerino]

"Lets look at her more human counterpart: Wall-E"
Shit had me dying

[naterushlow]

"She's so good in the force because she's a Palpatine..."
That's like me finding out I'm the son of Tom Brady and being able to win a Superbowl without knowing why.

[obowonkonobo]

People: "fuck luke hes such a gary stu"
Luke: *loses and gets his hand cut off in his only lightsaber fight in his first two films*
People: "im gonna pretend i didnt see that"

[youssefrida]

Mustafar is red
Kamino is blue
Just admit it
Rey’s a Mary Sue

[azetenth]

Someone said that Luke is Mary Sue because "he left in the middle of his training". At least he got through half of it instead of none of it...

[DenalPvP]

It bugged me when Han died and Leia went to hug Rey instead of Chewie when Rey and Leia have never met before and not to mention that Han and Chewie have been best friends since however long and Rey knew Han for a couple hours. Shes just awesome.

[thedisruptivexennial]

Kennedy was so concerned with showcasing a strong, independent woman in Star Wars (as if we hadn’t already seen that...Leia) that she forgot that they’re supposed to tell a convincing story.

[cabercrombie]

One thing not mentioned is that Luke's first attack in an x-wing almost resulted in his death. I think it's an important moment for him not to be instantly awesome at piloting a ship that he'd never flown.

[Kayjoir]

I love how you point out how Wall-e is more human than Rey.

[dandyguyinspace]

Not gonna lie, the antagonist of the sequels makes a better protagonist than the actual protagonist.

[jedidethfreak]

I never understood the argument that Rey could fix the Falcon because she's a scavenger - you don't take your car to a junkyard for repairs, do you?