Proper use of a Hydrostatic pedal - TMT

[GPOutdoors]

Hey Neal. This was a great lesson for us new compact tractor owners. I wish you put it out 6 months ago. I learned this over time from advice as I had no idea. Thanks - great video as always!

[ForensicPI]

Thank you for this new learning curve. I bought my first tractor at a different place. When their delivery person dropped off my tactor, I told him it was my 1st tractor, but he still did a quick overview. He never told me about this. I’ve been using 'full throttle' as I drive into my load in the pile. Looking forward to my next load of dirt or rocks to see how much better it works doing it the right way.

[tangoseal]

Ive been using mine wrong the whole time ... thanks Neil ... even 4 years later your videos are digital farmers gold

[leedawson]

Not only is this tip good for using your loader but it's also good for bush hogging on steep slopes. You'll notice on a 1 to 1 slope if you crowd your forward peddle your rpms will decrease dramatically. Lesson learned.... Those types of slopes like I have never try to turn around, go straight up and straight back down. Regardless of your choice in tire fluid your tractor will turn over. The awesomeness of the hst is the fact you'll almost never need to brake.
Using the bucket to dig or move material can work best for your tractor if you don't try to take the whole pile at one time. As you start in the material pick up on your bucket while your loading it, rolling it back at the same time. This gives you a full bucket faster and won't crowd your transmission at the same time. Never lift a full bucket more than a few feet off the ground while driving, it makes a mess and could turn your tractor over.

[tighelandentertainmentllc]

OMG...thank you so much for the video. I have looked at manuals, watched videos for over a week on a Mihindra tractor. From my research I now know looking up the exact models or brands isn't always the best. When you mentioned moving a load of dirt and how to do so without even demonstrating was mind blowing. Im a 5ft tall woman in a field with people who have lots in ideas on how to do it.. but they actually don't know how to do it either. So now I'm bout to teach em and show out.. Thanks again!

[jamierapp]

Thank you for the info Neil! I recently purchased the BX2680 (love it!), & didn't realize how the hst works. I've been a forklift driver (material handling, loading/unloading trucks, etc.) for years, & I'm used to pressing on the gas to make the mast rise faster, barrel clamp rotate faster, etc. Its been ingrained in me.

[jsteiman]

Thank you for producing these! I have 0 tractor background and just bought my first (a Kubota). Tuning in and learning a ton!

[williambrown]

Thanks AGAIN Neal for the additional info. Sorry Messicks is eight hundred miles from my home. Just took my M62 home tuesday, two days of work/play. Your videos are a big help. Thanks again!

[bruceingram]

Thanks for the video! Before I bought my tractor I pondered the difference between a hydrostatic it a manual transmission. I did not understand the hydrostatic but was completely comfortable with the manual and bought it. The hydrostatic may be easier and simpler to drive but I understood the workings of the manual. For me it was the best choice. Thanks for the good videos!

[artschulte]

I enjoy your informative videos
I have a kubota L 3200 and have received an abundance of great information from tuning into your videos
Thank you

[wrenchmanhotrods]

Thanks Neal, I have a new L3560 and this advice really helped, I have been moving a lot of dirt around and I don't push my forward Hydro pedal all the way and it works much better when loading the bucket .

[PrincetonBrat]

I beg to differ. The HST pedal does not affect any gear ratios, nor does the relief valve "steal power" from the system. If the pedal was like a transmission, there would be no justification for the the dual range gear selector. The ONLY thing the pedal does is control how much hydraulic FLOW the transmission receives. Less flow, less wheel rotation per second at lower torque at the selected range. The beauty of an HST is that ALL of the pressure at a given THROTTLE setting is available, regardless of how much pedal you use. All the relief valve does is LIMIT the maximum amount of PRESSURE the transmission can have, protecting the pump. Too much hydraulic pressure from heavy load, unbridled, would be hard or destructive to the hydraulic pump. The THROTTLE controls how much PRESSURE is available to the transmission. Low throttle, less pressure available. If you ask for too much FLOW (with the PEDAL) at high PRESSURE (full THROTTLE) without movement thru the transmission (due to heavy load), the relief valve will release unused flow at the predetermined fluid pressure. It will not REDUCE the available pressure, unless it's defective. It will merely set a limit as to how much pressure is allowed at the pump. I can add that this is true for the PTO and the loader, as well. If you overload at high throttle, it may cause the relief valve to limit what's available, usually with a howl.

THROTTLE - Pressure available
PEDAL - Pressure demanded
RELIEF VALVE - Pressure limit
RANGE SELECTOR - Transmission torque at the wheel

Of course, I don't have the black, lettered shirt. But I DO read the manuals, and I've worked on mine long enough to understand how the BX series hydrostatic drive system works. It's not much different from any HST, even my Scag Turf Tiger. I am prepared to be educated, if I am all wet.

[tonymcclendon-hobbytime]

Thank for the info, I am guilty of flooring my pedal, and I did notice that it did reduced the power. I thought something was wrong with the hydraulic system. Now it all make sense now. Just take it easy on the pedal. 👍🏽👍🏽

[guy]

When I first got my tractor I would haul butt as fast as the tractor would go and hit a big hill wide open, high range, full speed and pedal buried to the floor and I was surprised that I could not make it up the hill.
Then I learned that if I would let up on the pedal as it started to bog down I could make it but if I held the pedal to the floor it would kill the engine.
At first I was surprised that the tractor didn’t have enough power to make it up a big hill.
This video helped me determine what I was doing wrong.

[sherischneider]

The old IH Hydro's used to have an optimum range on the hand hydro control. You would only go above the optimum range under light load. A trick I was taught was to speed up before you approach the hill, dirt pile, or the end of the nylon tow rope. When the engine starts to load up you can rapidly decrease your speed as the engine loads up and keep your engine from getting lugged down. With a little practice you can make your small tractor work a little bigger without stalling it out or working it too hard. I have also done this with a powershift as it starts to lug down in a tough spot or get stuck.

[manofausagain]

Torque stays the same in stall so your tractive effort does not deminish. When you mash the pedal you are sending excess oil over a relief at the stall pressure rating of your hydraulics. Heating up the oil and burning fuel. Unless the tractor has torque control on the engine in which case the rpm should drop.

[StefanBacon]

I like to say as you push into the pile, you should be lifting up as you feel/hear the resistance. Go in with *some* speed and lifting off the pedal will gear it down as your bucket fills. you can always give it more again as you lift and crowd the bucket.

[StefanBacon]

Great video! Depending on how sturdy your loader is, you may want to roll in at a moderate speed to get the momentum of the machine pushing in but start to lift as the bucket enters the pile to gain grounding force, taking up slack from the waning momentum. Or it's just a tractor so drive it however you want, just don't make overly rapid pedal movements if it's mechanical.

[chadz]

Depending on what your picking up. Like soft and loose driving into pile fast letting off when you get into pile then ease back into pedal curl and lift to eliminate wheel spin. Granted I'm using a Cat 950m wheel loader, NH 7740 FWA w/fel and bobcat's at work. Be amazed how many people @ work in drive loader full boar into pile and keep spinning the wheels on concrete trying to get more in bucket

[twinbrookacres]

This older video just popped up in my feed. I guess I've been using my pedal properly. But, I have always been gentle with any of my vehicles. I drive them all like an old lady! :-)