What Happened To Seele? | Honkai: Star Rail

Seele was the first featured five star unit to be released in Honkai: Star Rail and was a dominat character in the early metagame. With the game having just completed its first year of service, how is the Butterfly of Wildfire doing these days? Has she held on to her position or is her time in the spotlight over?

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[herrscherkiller]

Just to give the answear before i watch it, her damage can be as big as Dr. Ratio, but it's locked behind her resurgence passive, and that requires her to kill an enemy. But because even the enemy mobs are tanky now, she can't one shot them, which means she can't access the full damage of her kit yet.

[nonessss]

Resurgence basically fixed her issue of being a Hunt character since release. Hunt characters problem is that they're single target oriented and from the start of the game and you're clearing mobs from the beginning anyways. Seele basically made Belobog story a pushover. She's done her part, now she stays as one of the DPSes that players have used, but will be used less as they pull newer DPSes

[subtlesong]

What happened to Seele? She followed the path of Guinaifen and became a popular Star Rail streamer.

What? Who's Molly Zhang? Never heard of em.

[risusama]

As a die hard seele main, I'd say shes a jack of all trades but not a master of none. There are plenty of scenarios where when used right she absolutely stomps. I still tend to finish her MoC 12 in 1-2 cycles and 40k PF with her but i cant deny that both the ceiling and floor are being raised to no fault of her own

[khwezimajoro]

i still think she's one of the best because she's been able to 0 cycle every MOC since release; similarly get max points in every pure fiction regardless of how much a disadvantage pure fiction is for her.

[fredxu]

There's a few issues with the analysis that often comes up when people are arguing against Seele:
- 5:15 Seele is not as SP negative in PF. Use her basic attack instead of her skill to finish off kills. The damage is lower, energy gain is less, but if you can finish off smaller enemies with the basic, it's worth conserving the SP and can also help speed up rotations slightly as Sparkle's 50% AV push is sometimes not enough to make Seele act immediately.
- 7:02 Seele's ult for Resurgence uptime is not as restrictive as it seems if paired with Tingyun. In a boss fight, Seele can maintain fairly high Resurgence uptime if played properly alongside Tingyun's ult battery. Additionally, Seele can be played in such a way that her ult provides 2 turns of Resurgence, not just 1, by activating the ult after Seele's turn has started. She gets Resurgence buff, but it does not tick down because her turn has already started, leading to a 2-turn uptime on Resurgence.

[JaXander]

Day 1 seele main, f2p, and I can say she still kicks it with the newer dps units IF you’ve invested enough into her. She’s arguably the most relic reliant unit in the game, which is probably what comes with being the first ever dps released for the game, and I wouldn’t recommend pulling for her on a rerun unless you’re willing to get as close to perfect relics for her. But if you do, it’s like she never saw a dip in production at all

[tim-myton]

I love Seele and I love using her. She’s not my favourite character (that honour currently goes to Topaz), but The Bronya, Seele combo works really well for me whenever I feel the need to use it. I won’t ever bench her if I can help it.

[sunnypa]

Once the hunt propaganda mode arrives, hunt characters, especially seele, will see their growth in usage rate and efficiency.










But dhil and acheron are still a blight to damage dealers cause they clear everything.

[xanaviii]

Seele doesn't spam skill to clear PF. She mixes basics because one of her talents give her additional action advance. It's entirely possible/almost necessary to be SP neutral with Seele in PF. She can also get extra turns per cycle from just her own high speed and action forward on basic attack. And it is entirely still possible to kill mobs with basic attack in PF. Until something *drastically* changes, Seele will still be a monster in PF.

She's only straightforward in concept--actually getting the maximum value out of her is actually difficult in execution. Seele hasn't fallen off at all.
This video exists only because people are switching to easier use units like Acheron, who just does unnecessary amounts of dmg.

[yammoto]

She is still strong, its just the game doesn't cater for her anymore. This is more of a case of feature creep than power creep tbh. She is still good imo for doing Scarab weekly boss and is alright in some other modes, but in general the idea that she has vanished from the meta is only apparent if you completely forget that she still deals some of the highest damage in the game.

Sadly Hunt characters need a mode catered to them like Erudition got Pure fiction, maybe Hunt characters can get a boss rush mode or something.

[tama]

I mean, having Dr Ratio for free might skew the perception as well. Especially Ratio's team is about to get better with Robin

[colorlessguard]

i think overall Seele has definitely shifted down as preferred DPS for many players, but imo she’s still a perfectly fine at her role — especially so for day one players who pulled her and therefore have had time to invest into her really well

plus there’s that new Apocalyptic Shadow endgame mode coming in the 2.3 patch… perhaps this mode will be more well-suited for her and other Hunt characters similar to how Erudition characters perform best in Pure Fiction ?

[Ui_Raizen]

With the Rappa update with us getting a new set that increases skill and ultimate dmg by 20% lets see where Seele will stand with this new set

[marupurusaivamsi]

What happened? Nothing. Just others are fucking high dps which doesn't need. She's still solid .

[kasparkannel]

Not to be "that guy" but Seele is one of very few characters who can 0 cycle the most recent Pure Fiction stage 4

[albertothebigboss]

The one thing that makes seela unique is her disturbing high speed, which is baked into her kit. If jade can someone make that even better plus slapping enemies to make it easier for seela to get resurgence that might be saving grace but then the question is who do you replace in the mono quantum if you don't want to run a glass canon?

[LizardKingRequiem]

Are we really gonna act like seele is weak now when she clears moc12 and pure fiction just as well as everybody else

[avatr]

Sparkle was supposed to keep Seele relevant but basically made every DPS around her better.

[jpegwarrior]

"Compared to the other DPS units, Seele is arguably the most straight-forward 5-star damage dealer in the game."
Seele: Press E unless you can't.
Acheron: Press E unless you can't.
Kafka: Press E unless you can't.
Dr. Ratio: Press E unless you can't.