I DONT USE NEXT JS

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[valhalla_dev]

"I haven't used it enough to have a strong opinion"

If we can just... normalize this sentence/approach, discourse around software dev would become so much more enjoyable.

[nefrace]

_"You're dissatisfied with your current modern framework"_
Me, generating HTML from Go templates: *Well, not really.*

[AlexandrosKatechis]

Why is Dr. Disrespect reading javascript blogs?

[erickmoya]

There are so many next and remix devs just from being React devs. Is like being trapped in quicksand and trying to solve it by adding more sand.

[wrux]

I met a guy recently in Japan and he builds JS apps without any library and handles all DOM manipulation manually with a bunch of functions he created himself. It was impressive to see what he could achieve and was writing code on a Chromebook without any build steps.

His code was so so ugly, but he was able to build some interesting projects.

[pythagoran]

"Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket." - Eric Hoffer

[doctorgears]

I'd let Slack take up 2 cores and half of my RAM if they made code snippets less ass

[benbowers]

I really like the format of reading two opposing articles back-to-back. Very juicy knowledge and fresh perspectives

[damienlmoore]

I know you are mostly just being funny but I am firmly in the Rich Harris camp that the problem with web performance isn't JavaScript and frameworks, it's commercial decisions.

[shadowfaxenator]

Self hosting nextjs for production is not the save as using vercel. Caching doesn't scale as it uses local files as a store. Next has an experemental feature to use other cache storage, but it doexn't work with revalidatePath() so it's not easy to just self-host nextjs app

[jaklegacy]

I think the increasing divergence from Remix's philosophy / approach with Next JS's philosophy / approach is overall a good thing for both frameworks. They are becoming increasingly distinct from one another as time progresses. Next js is your shiny brand new sports car with the latest gizmos while Remix is like a simple and efficient EV sedan that is plenty fast, but not focused on the bells and whistles.

[FullStacker-dev]

Nextjs is a wired framework, if you use it without thinking about it, it seems nice, but when you start really thinking about how it works internally and how the deployment/hosting work, it start to be confusing

[volkswagenpassat-wo]

Has anyone ever noticed the way prime selects text ? He skips the first and last letter of a sentence and it’s very pleasing to me

[erikslorenz]

Every feature in nextjs is designed for lock in to vercel imo

[gerdokurt]

I dont know...some things I see in web dev remind me on the developments my industry (civil engineering infrastructure design) went through decades ago when computers etc. became a thing.
50 years ago, designing, calculating and building bridges was a pretty straight forward thing. why? because the tools were limited. there were tables for some predefined situations, and calculations and drawings were done by hand. when you do stuff by hand, you automatically reduce it to the necessary.

when the tools came that should fasten and simplify everything, a lot of often unnecessary complexity was added to the projects in a "we have the tools now!" mindset.
so much that you can argue that the advantages seem to be completely gone or even turned to less effiency.

thats what probably also happens with a lot of web projects. people use frameworks because "it`s fast and simple" and then they stuff their most of the time pretty simple app with shit until they realise it`s not fast and simple anymore.

[armorfid]

I don't use next JS, or previous JS, or current JS; all my homies hate JS

[Michaeltje]

41:41 my dockerized nextjs app broke after updating a patch release.

[simod.]

Am I the only one who feels like nextjs isnt getting any faster even with their new 14 update.
Im using shadcn and tailwind and im literally restarting the server every 3 minutes cuz it wont render the component or the tailwind classes i added.
Its frustrating 😔

[seanchen]

next started as a tool for react users to build websites.. not apps. every unintuitive stems from that root. It's like html css, it was created for people to assemble documents... static documents like newspapers and magazines. Future capabilities are built onto of that

[Meligy]

The main issue I have with Vercel is that most of my customers use Azure or AWS by default. It'll be quite a process to suggest anything else.
I mentioned this to the Vercel people at Web Directions Summit in Sydney last month. I'd really love to use them, but without them being available via AWS/Azure marketplace or something like that, I have to pretend they don't exist for most projects, which makes me wonder about nextJS also.