Tubes vs Transistors with Ken Scott - The BEATLES

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That's a hella insightful interview, thanks so much for posting. I want a tube console now ...

wheelwarrior
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I remember working in a studio back in 89 with analog tape, then the change to ADAT. It was crisp, but thin compared to the analog warmth of tapes.

joserios
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It's all a matter of convention. Orchestras sound best in long halls with high ceilings because we're used to hearing them played and recorded there.

In the same way, switching from the heavily coloured valve sound to the cleaner and more accurate transistor was a big difference that people were just not accustomed to. So the transistors aren't really harsh, they just change the sound much less than valves. But that association is made because everybody at the time only had valves as a point of reference.

Vinyl records also have a reputation for warm sound compared to CDs which is just due to the analog record losing some high frequencies. So if you produce for CD rather than vinyl, that is something to take into account so as to not get an uncomfortably strong top end.

zeemon
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It's a question of not having too much echo using minimal instruments and the frequency used on every instrument sounding great. Simples

billgough
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The new console sure served Dark Side well though.

JohnGauge
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I remember playing a friends solid State amp in the 60s. It was horrible. I owned and still own a 1964 deluxe reverb and some matchless amplifiers.❤

martydibergi
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That's been my problem with digital since CDs first came out. Years ago, we'd spend hours putting together a 500 or 1000 piece puzzle in the evening. If we listened to LPs, we'd be at it for 2-4 hours. But if I played CDs we'd get a headache after an hour and stop.

scifiwriter
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I just switched to digital from analog back in January. I prefer overall sound a lot more, but having trouble recording decent bass guitar tracks...even with the exact same equipment & techniques I used with analog that sounded really good. Only "help" I can find tells me to use plug-ins, or other stuff I don't use....I don't even use a DAW, so can't use plug-ins anyway.
(I only use a simple DAW to convert my multi track mixes into a stereo mix, but that's all.)

JakeStrange
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well transistors and corresponding circuits got better, so it wasn't just a matter of: any transistor sounds harsher than any tube. The same with digital. The resolution and software got way better. The first CD players and later digital ADAT machines sounded awful.

truefilm
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They have a neve or something close with hella effects

TurdPlop
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The went from 4 to 8 track. That must have given the white album and abbey road more breathing room than Pepper which required bouncing and squeezing things in.

baronvonlichtenstein
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I am so glad that this popped up in my feed surrounded and bookended by political videos. thanks for the breath of fresh air

patrickfreeman
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Analog recording gear is the best for sure. But too expensive

digitaldesigner
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David Bowie's bro/cuz?
Looks so much like him.

VedranBoskovski
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And now it’s for sale for £3m 😍 grab yourself a bargain 🤣

musicbyATHRU
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What i dint get is analogue/tube guitar amps- far less components compared to digital solid state amps but analogue costs much much more and being on the go not much changed from inception since the radio was invented, the industry has been perfected to the point where factories have paid for the next 3 factories in costs of machinery and materials are easier to get like glass - sand, nickel, etc so we have to pay more than we can afford just to sound warm and fuzzy when we play guitar, People are greedy. Analogue to digital interfaces have been mastered and they have thats a fact, so having a computer sytem to adapt to is no excuse to ramp the price up even more.

mikefarquhar
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See we all think our plight with digital is new, but it’s all been done before.

joshuagrindstaff
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Think in terms of BREAD....a Nice piece of and warmed up as if it was fresh from a hearth ! The Crust outside of the Loaf and then a cross sectional of a piece of Bread. Lightly Toasted with a surface finish and then more TOASTED and a CRISP TEXTURE on the Surface of the Slice for consumption. So it is the DEGREE OF CRISP...the Texture. Not saying going DARK and BURNT from too much heat exposure....but the gentle heat draws out the moisture in the Bread from being Exposed too long. The EQ technology in the Tube/Valve era was not the same as for the CONSOLE as for the next GEN going to Transistor and the developments of the various band Graphic EQ's. The WARM Tube/Valve could be more focused and crisper with a Transistor EQ and the Various Bands to tweak within the Spectrum and then sent back to a then it depends on where the operating point is dialed in for the Power Rail and selection of the Tube/Valve type ! The CURVE of Response is more EAR oriented with a TUBE/VALVE rather than the LINEAR aspect on PAPER with a SOLID STATE DEVICE....when it comes to what COMES OUT THE SPEAKERS from the MATERIAL SCIENCE in the ERA and the Capacitors....the actual MATERIAL that the electron signal wave travels through as Coupling Capacitors and DC Power Rail Blocking/Separation with opposed to passing signal through a Solid State Electrolytic and CHEMISTRY which was ALL WET and subject to dehydration Via TIME and a Constant shift ever so Slight ....with not to be confused with EAR FATIGUE from sitting and The WHAT COMES OUT THE SPEAKERS those LEFT & RIGHT Ears and the Blend in the ROOM.

mikecamps
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It’s disappointing that two brits are saying tubes and not valves.

AnalogueGround
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Going from Tubes to Solid state IS going from Analog to Digital. It's not only like it. It is it.

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