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Chapters
00:00 TrueNAS Scale 2024 Updates and Changes
00:48 TrueNAS Scale 24.04.1.1 Change log
02:20 TrueNAS Scale Electric Eel ZFS Expansion
02:50 Docker Compose Coming to TrueNAS Electric Eel
03:29 ZFS Fast Dedup Feature Update

[hackula]

Should of mentioned the Jails aspect. Using Jailmaker to create a Docker Linux Jail works pretty awesome right now.

[GCTWorks]

I looks forward to Tom's video on how the zraid expansion works and any caveats with it. This is big dor homelabbers like me. It can be a fiscall challenge to expand a zpool like it is now.

[aiwa]

ZFS expansion is going to be great for those that don't want to break the bank getting all the space they anticipate needing at once. The ability to expand your pool with more hardware later is a welcoming feature.

[jsclayton]

iX made a valiant effort trying to put a simple GUI on top of K8s, but I’m glad they’re throwing in the towel.

[cpn]

About time. K3s is not the right tool for this particular job and it causes me issues with power saving states never engaging because of kube's internal furniture churn.

[urzalukaskubicek]

Hurray for docker compose. K3s on truenas was a mistake.

[johansmolinski]

I am happy the ZFS expansion is coming. I based my RAIDZ decision a year ago on the promises of this future possibility, opting for a five disk RAIDZ2 instead of RAIDZ1. It's far from filled so far, so I'll wait, but I love the fact that it will be possible to expand the ZFS with another disk once needed.

[kiefffrc]

Makes sense to move off k3s on scale. Most aren’t deploying multiple truenas scale nodes in their home lab for a k3s cluster I would assume. Either way I like the move in some aspects. I’ve had a great experience with scale apps so far though. Plex w GPU transcoding, Nextcloud, warden, cloud flaredns, and about close to a dozen more. Will be fun to redeploy it all again for a slight redesign on some apps.

[aceman]

the zfs expansion is what I'm really looking forward too. My media server is getting kinda full, sitting around 70%, would love to be able to expand it easily

[stephenreaves]

Also, I didn't see any mention of what's replacing Gluster. Is that still unknown? That was kind of a big selling point of the "SCALE" branding

[Jamesaepp]

Is TrueNAS doing too much these days? Virtualization, containers, all the different sync options baked-in. Don't get me wrong, I benefit from the convenience myself. But at what point do we start asking "What's the security blast radius with all this same shit running on my storage system?".

If it doesn't exist already (I am a CORE user), I think we almost need an equivalent to Windows Server Core for TrueNAS. An installation option with just the bare minimum storage packages/software/features, and then users elect into what extra code they install via a package system. Not unlike pfsense in a way, I suppose.

[Scott-phyk]

A great summary on the latest updates to Scale. I am a Core home user running PC backups, Plex, and Tailscale.
I really like the stability of Core, but Scale is starting to look really good.
It is "good trouble " to have 2 great options from iXsystems. 😊

[randominternet]

Docker is a fantastic decision! K8s... especially at the scale of these instances (not 1000's of machines) made no sense.

[jfkastner]

Thanks, good to see the Progress. Nice Video BTW

[TheJimNicholson]

I'm an IT infrastructure engineer, and I have a pretty extensive homelab. I really don't get the use case for a NAS running applications, whether it be in containers, jails or VMs. That said, going from Kubernetes to docker is a backward move, and using docker-compose for any kind of production purpose is asinine. Kubernetes exists because using Docker / compose in production situations is a horrific, unmanageable mess.

I don't need my NAS to also be a media server; if I need one of those, I'll either deploy it to one of my k8s clusters (I run both k3s and talos) or spin up a VM for it in my hypervisor, and use my NAS to provide storage. What I would rather see is Truenas adding block-storage capabilities as a base capacity; something like what EBS or Minio provide.

What really excites me is HCI

[BigOlBilliam]

As someone who is still really new to this and just wiped my TrueNAS Scale instance because I wasn’t happy with the performance following the update to Dragonscale, I’m kind of disappointed.

I’ve read that TrueCharts has been divisive, but it seems like there’s a lot of complexity to get things Docker running in TrueNAS Scale. It seems like there’s a steep learning curve to knowing what to modify in a Compose script.

[custard]

im not sure about the docker/kubernetes thing tbh

i feel like there is a lot of confusion in the industry around containers and how they run but making the switch that way around feels crazy

k8s manifests/a helm chart can do pretty much everything (i think it is actually everything but leaving room for there to be some obscure thing ive missed) that a docker-compose file can do, and its not that difficult a conversion (i havent personally tried it but there is a tool "Kompose" that claims to be able to do it for you)

that is not the case the other way around, there are tons of things that k8s can do that docker-compose cant,

ofc i get that can make things more complicated for users who dont want it but imo the solution there is to provide a simpler interface that hides the stuff they dont want to see, rather than to remove support for all of that functionality

docker-compose is nice and convenient for development environments but even though i have used it for a couple of production deploys before i learnt any better it doesnt really feel like its designed for it

[DeviloftheHelll]

system security would be appreciated on raw hardware

[URackADisciprine]

How come they can add all these complicated features yet they cannot even get drives to spin down when they are set to do so after 120 minutes of non-use. I have tried a fresh install with no apps, dataset on the boot pool and other minor tweaks per their instruction and still the drives never spin down. Then they tell you it is not officially supported. It's built into the OS as a feature for cryin out loud. I would like to leave my server on but I live in a high cost/kWh area and do not use it enough. So, I am relegated to turning it on and off again once every two weeks or so. Just pathetic.

[platinum]

Hello, watching a ton of your videos on truenas and they are great. I started my own home server nas but running into issues with my connected external drive pools since I don't have room for internal storage. When I reboot the system or loss power, upon restart truenas does not reconnect the drives as setup but recognizing them as unassigned drives. Any tips or video you did that could help please? Thank you