Terraforming Mars - Shut Up & Sit Down Review

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[Wookien]

What I love about terraforming mars is that the terraforming is secondary to the money making schemes. These are megacorps who's in this to make money - not make greenery

[carlost]

"In fact I don't think calculating efficiency is even on the party scale."

This is why I love you guys. The great analysis too.

[IIAndersII]

4:07
"You're fired"
"That's reasonable"
😂

[rocketfallen]

I have no idea why "What's for dinner, mum? cracks me up as much as it does.

[jukeboxhero]

When I first watched this review, my first thought was "Nah. Pass. Not for me. ESPECIALLY with all the math involved." Just played it yesterday, and I'm VERY grateful to be proven wrong! This was a FANTASTIC resource building game! One of the best Ive played!

[aPlateOfGrapes]

Just stumbled across your channel, and I'm really lichen this review.

[pennsylvania]

Glad they got a review out for it. The guys make great points. My friends and I really enjoyed it, though, despite the quirks. I think SUSD might be understating the tile placement on the map and are over-focused on the sideboard. There were plenty of turns where I got burned on putting something out on the map because I was thinking I'd have another turn or two of actions. They don't get into this, but increasing the terraforming levels also sometimes grants bonuses to your engine. So, the extra layer of timing and competition also forced me to look away from the card engine and look to see where my opponents were.

[Dr.TurdFartleyBM]

I think I've had the exact opposite opinion of SUSD on every single one of their videos. Just goes to show how varied people's tastes are in the hobby. Either way, thanks for the video and your insight!

[IsmeGenius]

Wow, that was unexpected. I play the game to this day and still love it. It's easily top 3 for me. While I do enjoy lots of other games it is very rare I would want to play a game more than a several times. But with terraforming mars I cannot get enough.

[Trinketorium]

Love you guys!

I don't agree with the comments about no interaction though. In our last game, one guy repeatedly played cards against me, stealing my plants and heat and lowering my power. I gained the ability to block him, but waited to play it until the crucial moment when I had just played a card to give me enough plants to play a chain of cards that would give me the game - he then tried to steal them, realised I had blocked him, and I went on to win. With one of those "In your face!" / "Damn, nice move!" moments that make board games so much better than video games.

Also, don't really agree about the board being a lesser feature - if you play it correctly (which you guys noted you didn't) and actually do terraform (i.e. moving the oxygen and heat), then you are constantly checking to see if you can still play ability X or if the heat is too high, or if the oxygen is too low, or if there aren't yet enough oceans - giving friendly game play suggestions to your fellow players to just, you know, pop down an ocean, and then "bam!" - I've got a swamp and stolen all that precious forest they wanted mwhaha ahem, anyway.

Finally - the solo game - is fantastic. I play solo a fair bit, and this game just keeps calling me back. I've beaten it a few times, but you have to really plan out your strategy - combined with a bit of luck - and its far more "crossword" than "Sudoku" in that mode, and fast paced, which appeals.

But thanks for the review, and I look forward to the next!

[dTones]

From this day forth, every time I teach this game, I will make sure to use the phrase "you've got your Mars, and you've got your Mars bars"

[juniorlopes]

I had a feeling that I was just doing maths while playing too, without making pivotal strategic decisions

until....

I played with the draft mode variant, which for me, this thing changed so greatly the game for better, and was kind of a relieve, since I'm very into physics and science, so it would be a shame if I didn't find my taste in this game.

[ashwafc]

Matt ahead of his time with that face mask!

[LifeoftheParty]

I always get surprised by the people who get upset when SU&SD does a "negative" review of a game they love. SU&SD doesn't do "negative" reviews. If a game is bad they don't even give it the honor of being reviewed. The games they do review are a mixture of "yeah it's good and you might like it but...", "You'll probably like this game no matter who you are.", And "OMG go buy this game NOW!".

[koffiegast]

After 2 months I still play this regularly. Everyone's first game always turns out to be 'shit this was bad, i should have done this, what does this symbol mean, how can I...'-fest. But, in your second game you start to realize how competitive things can be: board placement, awards, milestones or simply claiming the limited number of oxygen/temp/water needs you can fulfil.

Personally, I strongly suggest drafting (option of buying 1 or not buying any card each time), the extra cards and if you got a bit more time: all production at 0 except for what your corporation indicates. As for corporations, hand 2-4 out depending on the number of players and allow them to choose which one to keep after they have drafted the first 10 cards (mentioning that they should not overbuy cards if their corp has little money; this makes it a very challenging game).

[shutupandsitdown]

Quinns' favourite economy-fiddling games:

[TopDesu]

Hands down this was one of the best reviews i've ever seen. Entertaining *and* highly informational at the same time. Subscribed really hard

[thomasromanelli]

I had forgotten how funny it was when you fired Matt.

"That's reasonable" 😄😂🤣

[Holistic-songwriting]

I love you guys. Excellent acting there at the end, Matt!

[xicufwm]

an awful lot of arithmetic? as a mathematician, that's the part I love the most about this game. Also, my play group is formed mostly by other mathematicians so I guess that explains why this is definitely our favorite game