Siegmeyer the Pretender | Dark Souls Lore

Dark Souls Lore behind the widely loved Siegmeyer, whose tale seems to unfairly conclude in an infamous sudden death. But why did his quest devolve? What are the deeper implications? And can we learn from his mistakes?

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Hawkshaw.

[Hawkshaw]

"Think..think..think.."

A character everyone loves. Round and cuddley, with friends always ready to help. A stomach for snacks and a brain that does a lot of thinking.. It's not Winnie the Pooh, it's Siegmeyer.

"He knew it was time for something, but he was a bear of very little brain. So when he thought, he thought in the most thoughtful way he could think."-Narrator
"Haven't thought of anything have you? No neither have I. Think..think..think.." Winnie the Pooh


May grace guide us all.. ✨
Hawkshaw

[ArcadeTheatre]

Now whenever I am feeling down or hopeless, I'll look at myself in the mirror and say, "You have a +15 Zweihander."

[TheodoricFriede]

Personally, I always took it that Siegmeyer was a patient man and WAS a great warrior. But he has gotten older and perhaps his mind and skills started to fade. This was compounded by the undead curse, and he began to fade more and more.

His quest is to prove he is the man he used to be.

I think he is in the process of hollowing even by the time we meet him. He's essentially a once great adventurer with dementia, going on one last quest before he no longer can.

[sirdanielfortesque]

So you're saying Sieglinde does a masterful no death/no bonfire run to find her Dad while i'm falling off every ledge and chugging all the estus?

[dankmurphy]

I've been feeling like a Siegmeyer myself for a long while now, even though you were talking about a fictional character, what you were saying really resonated with me as a person, like you were speaking directly to me when explaining siegmeyers behaviors and mindset, and really gave me a perspective on the way I have been the past 12 months, thank you for this, I see now what I must do to pull myself out of this rut. I had no idea the answer to my issues would be in a Dark Souls lore video of all places. This was an amazing piece of work, truly.

[ivankrylov]

Having seigmeyer be summonable for the BoC fight and just get in your way would have been cruelly hilarious

[Haru-spicy]

Also importantly: after you save him in Anor Londo and talk to him again in Firelink, he says "I'll be heading down below shortly. There wasn't anything worthwhile up above." How could such a pious and jolly knight regard the image of the goddess Gwynevere as 'nothing worthwhile'?

Because he never saw her. He gave up at ornstein and smough and turned back.

[ripghotihook]

I always saw Siegmyer as the guy who aspired to be more than he could handle. He seemed to be that guy who spends his life savings to try and fulfill his dream, even when his family tries to tell him it isn't realistic, but he just doesn't have the capability to make it come true. He seemed a good man who's head was in the clouds, ignoring how his choices have hurt those around him.

[PlagueOfGripes]

Great video. His choice to create his own obstacles is his most defining trait, behind his own warmth. The conspiracy behind the gods subplot is so unfinished a thought that I tend to not apply it to much of anything. In my mind, they end up in Ash Lake because this is a place his daughter knew there was a bonfire but no one for her father to harm - it's the one place that she could safely kill her father over and over again as his body reformed to ensure that his hollowing would complete safely and as rapidly as possible while endangering no one. Siegmeyer was a flawed by likeable person; his daughter may be the biggest badass in the series.

[jonesjones]

If Seigmeyer has 1, 000, 000 fans I’m one of them
If Seigmeyer has 1 fan I’m them
If Seigmeyer has 0 fans I’m hollow

[garyburginjr]

Seiglend's voice actress has such a wonderful tone to her voice. So caring and authentic.

[someone]

Someone HAS to make a mod where you can summon Siegmeyer as a phantom and then he just sits there in front of the fog gate and waits for you to beat the boss alone

[jyxtheberzerking]

i think everyone likes Siegmeyer for more than just his charm, though i can only speak for myself. we like his personality, his speech, but perhaps we also resonate with "being in a pickle" and telling ourselves that "we'll think of something, you'll see!"
our goals are blurry, solutions to our problems are half-cocked, our present is waiting for solutions and opportunities to come to us, our futures are more of the same unless someone knocks us out of it or we change ourselves in some way.
waiting for something that has no guarantee of arriving is no way to solve problems or live.
for this video, this knight of the internet thanks you sincerely.

[kylecherpy]

I always saw myself as Siegmeyer. I've always felt like a bit of an adventurer but especially with where I am and with how life has been lately, I never noticed that I've been acting like Siegmeyer. Waiting for life to work itself out while doing nothing. This video is an honest wakeup call. Thank you.

[smoage]

wow the juxtaposition between Siegmeyer's top of the line kit and Solaire's home made kit and how they use them is so stark and it never occurred to me before

[cameron-yozp]

Him sitting at the gate waiting has strong Winnie the Pooh vibes, "Oh bother, a wall... I guess I'll sit here and think. Think, think think..."

[CappnRob]

An excellent analysis of my favorite Dark Souls character, though I will say one thing about his death at Sieglinde's hands: while the plot against the gods certainly sounds feasible when you put it as you have, I think the much more simpler, obvious possibility is the real truth: Siegmeyer's "final" adventure is because after having been saved by you in Izalith, he's had his epiphany. He is undead, his time is limited, as hollowing comes for all eventually. He's made amends with Sieglinde, and so he sets off, not expecting to be seen again.

Sieglinde's words at his death are those of a mourning daughter. The "trouble" he caused was his needs for assistance from the player character. The reason it's over, is because he has gone hollow, and has been put to rest. This chapter in the book of Sieglinde's life has been completed. She came to Lordran for her father, and with him gone, she has nothing to stay for. She is not undead. She can't link the Fire. She returns to the world of the living, to her home, to live the rest of her life.

As for how or why Siegmeyer goes hollow, I certainly don't think it is because Sieglinde killed him over and over again until he went mad. Such a fate I think is too cruelly out of character for Sieglinde. I think it just came with being his "final adventure". You gave him his epiphany, but he still had no direction. He sets out aimlessly, and wanders to the farthest reaches of the world. Ash Lake is not easy to reach, it is an exhausting journey. He in all likelyhood laid here to rest, as he often did, only to never awake again as himself.

[riggplays]

Even Hawkshaw will struggle to convince me Seigmeyer has any negative character traits.

[flightdub]

Wtf man why did a video about Onion Bro end up so relatable and emotional for me, we’ve all known what it’s like to stand outside life’s gate and tell ourself we’re doing our best while we idle and wait for better things to come along, not realising these things are fleeting if we don’t grab them ourselves. Beautiful video man

[core-nix]

I genuinely believe that Siegward and Siegmeyer are narcoleptics, which is cool because it's played for laughs and doesn't get explicitly mentioned (it would probably be viewed more like a curse than a disease) - it makes their accomplishments in climbing and combat feel more epic, knowing they have to deal with chronic fatigue and tiredness.
Many narcoleptics try to manage the illness by taking frequent naps.

Edit: Just watched through to the end, this might be your best video yet - the theory makes perfect sense.