Jordan Peterson: Dostoyevsky‘s Critique of Utopian Egalitarianism

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Jordan B Peterson (born June 12, 1962) is a Canadian clinical psychologist and professor of psychology at the University of Toronto. The topic of this clip is: Dostoyevsky‘s Critique of Utopian Egalitarianism.

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I am Romanian. When I was 3 years old in spring 89 I told my kindergarten teacher that I like apples and I like when my grandma smashes them to make alcohol. The second day my grandma was taken at the police to answer if she steals apples to make alcohol.
She took me one time to the collective village farm and because I told that experience to the teacher, like a 3 years old kid does, she got in trouble (she was doing that for the State Farm with other people, no braking the law). I even suspect the teacher was asking the kids about the family so she can rapport to the secret police.
Fuck communism!

EUTalks
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The fact that Professor Peterson's views are fringe in a western univeristy is telling.

pawelmatus
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This is why the first matrix didn't work according to agent Smith .

andynixon
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I feel privileged for having the opportunity of listening to such a brilliant speech. God bless professor Jordan Peterson!

synergyzer
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A Beard? I assumed the gods prohibited professor Peterson from having facial hair, because he’d be too powerful.

briansinger
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"Shower him with all earthly blessings, drown him in happiness completely, over his head, so that only bubbles pop up on the surface of happiness, as on water; give him such economic satisfaction that he no longer has anything left to do at all except sleep, eat gingerbread, and worry about the noncessation of world history — and it is here, just here, that he, this man, out of sheer ingratitude, out of sheer lampoonery, will do something nasty.

He will even risk his gingerbread, and wish on purpose for the most pernicious nonsense, the most non-economical meaninglessness, solely in order to mix into all this positive good sense his own pernicious fantastical element." Dostoyevsky

RickDelmonico
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I think this video is a great example of how great of a speaker Jordan is. So interesting to hear him talk about so many subjects, and even more fascinating because they're all related to a central idea.

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Karl Menger of the Austrian School of Economics theorized that value is subjective. It is only valuable to the man who believes that what they want will help them to achieve their goals.

Rhygenix
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Love the egg and omelet example - simple. Love JBP's talks <3

DarcyCardinal
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Only the weak ones crave for Utopias. The bold ones make a world by their own.

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I remember reading somewhere that there was a man trying to create a new type of utopia starting with an experimental bubble society in florida where everything you needed would be automated. No one would need to slave away to produce things because automated machines would do most of the farming work, they would patch up and rebuild infrastructure...the only skilled labor you might need once and again are tech people or mechanical engineers and if anything their value in this society (which wasn't mentioned but I was pondering it) would be elevated to a godlike worth. But I wondered...would I really be happy in a society where I didn't have to work for a damn thing? Quite honestly I would because i'm the sort that could be happy having plenty of time to enjoy nature and i'm also an artist...so if I could, I would totally paint my life away. but I realized not everyone has these same interests and enjoyments as mine this would never be a truly universal utopia. a utopia for artists perhaps.
but then comes a real irony....without capitalism....who would manufacture my paintbrushes...my canvas...my easel...my paints? who would build keyboards and pianos and guitars?
would they still exist?
idk interesting food for thought. Feel free to comment what you think.

LipSyncLover
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JP nails it as usual. At 58 I, personally, no longer want or need “interesting troubles.” I’m ready to lay my burden down and “coast.”

JeffTY
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I wish Jordan Peterson were on Youtube when I was younger so that I wouldn't now be ashamed of spending so many years thinking that it was just bullshit when people said that communism was evil.

ekay
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I think Dostoyevsky is to Peterson as Peterson is to us.

draganmiscevic
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I first read Dostojevsky and then I found and enjoyed JP speaking about his books.
BK is the best but I also love Demons sooo much… nobody can compete with Dostojevsky, even Nietzsche wrote that finding Dostojevskis works was his greatest discovery

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"The first Matrix I designed was quite naturally perfect. It was a work of art. Flawless. Sublime. A triumph only equaled by its monumental failure." - The Architect in Matrix: Reloaded

negladiator
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To the collectivist, the means always justify the end. They completely ignore human nature, history, observable reality, and basic economics in promoting their pursuit of so call "economic equality." It was very disheartening read all the positive comments video promoting Resource Based Economy, Democratic Socialism- over 100K+ up votes for videos promoting Universal Basic Income like the one
Kurtgesagt put out a few days ago.

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"And the problem with the utopian vision essentially was that IF my theory is associated with a future Utopia in a logical way, so that I can make a case to you that if you do this and we do that and they do this and we organising things this way, then we'll usher in a period of prosperity that almost heavenly in its promise, the problem with that is it means we can do any bloody thing we want right now (to achieve the vision) because the end product is so valuable that it justifies it. And so what happens is the Utopian vision turns into a rationale for the most destructive forms of behavior in the here and now".

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Just finished Notes from the Underground today and this is bliss

rahulkailad
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so agent smith was paying homage to Dostoyevsky when he told Neo that the first matrix was a failure because it was too perfect...so humans rejected it

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