Shocking EV Impressions — The Carmudgeon Show — Ep. 46

#modelsplaid #rivianr1t #corvettezr1 #hondansx #300sel63

Is the Model S Plaid in fact under-braked? Does the off-road competency of the Rivian R1T matter for its market success? In this episode, Jason Cammisa and Derek Tam-Scott discuss the questions of the month relating to two of the most interesting EVs currently on the market, but quickly redeem themselves by discussing decades-old gasoline powered cars including Jason’s upcoming Revelations episode on the C4 Corvette ZR1, and Derek’s BTS episodes on the Honda NSX Type-R and Mercedes-Benz 300 SEL 6.3.

The Carmudgeon Show is a comedic, information-filled conversation with Jason Cammisa and Derek Tam-Scott, two car enthusiasts who are curmudgeonly beyond their years. Proving you don’t have to be old to be grumpy, they spend each episode talking about what’s wrong with various parts of the automotive universe. Despite their best efforts to keep it negative, they usually wind up laughing, happy, and extolling their love for cars. Which just makes them angrier and more bitter.
ISSIMI is an enthusiast-owned, full-service specialist offering sales, consignment, collection management, service, and consulting to discerning enthusiasts and collectors. Specializing in complex transactions that include international services for exceptional cars, ISSIMI’s San Francisco Bay Area and Europe-based teams of experts pride themselves on transparency and knowledge.

Jason Cammisa is an automotive journalist, social-media figure, and TV host with over 250 million views on YouTube alone. Jason’s deeply technical understanding, made possible by a lifelong obsession with cars, allows him to fully digest what’s going on within an automobile — and then put it into simple terms for others to understand. Also, a Master’s Degree in Law trained him to be impossible to argue with.

Derek Tam-Scott still tries. He’s a young automotive expert with old-man taste in cars, and a Master’s Degree in Civil Engineering — which means he knows how to be civil to Jason. Or at least he tries. With a decade and a half’s experience buying, selling, driving and brokering classic and exotic cars, he’s experienced the world’s most iconic cars. And hated most of them.


#modelsplaid #rivianr1t #corvettezr1 #hondansx #300sel63

[Dtamscott]

In this episode, I pulled 4% out of my butt as a the percentage of TRD Pro owners who use the capabilities of their 4Runners and Tacomas (and I guess Tundras too). But these things have outrageous resale values which indicate that the public cares. What is it that attracts people about the capability they'll never use? Is it the same as people who buy a GT2RS and don't use its capability?

[pascutia]

I scoffed so hard when Derek said nobody would watch his video on the Mercedes. Those things are legendary. Can’t wait to see that video and get his perspective on it.

[nam.justin]

THEY'RE BACK!!!! Missed seeing knockoff Adam Sandler and the senior citizen stuck in a millennial's body. Love you guys <3

[taylorhoward]

This is the only car show that talks in depth about all the nerdy stuff that normal people hate. Please keep it up. Talking about Tesla being under-braked was interesting (I also saw the Throttle House video).

Edit - also please to the Piëch episode!

[mikuelable]

My goodness how has the world last this long without y'all podcast

[deXXXXter]

That was EXTREMELY interesting talk and analysis. Especially that breaking slower than accelerating part.

[davidbush]

I’m newly interested in cars (took 37 years to realize how amazing they are), and I’m so thankful to hear knowledgeable and interesting people talk like this. I could listen for hours and hours.

[aedengasser-brennan]

Another big difference between acceleration and braking is the different requirements in terms of safety. Because most people just panic stomp the brake pedal when they are about to crash, manufacturers actually tune ABS systems to leave just enough grip in the tires to allow you to turn the car and maneuver. This means that, with ABS on, you can never actually reach the traction limit of your tires under braking, because the car wants to make sure you can turn at the same time if you wanted to. This isn't a concern for traction control systems, where you can always just take your foot off of the throttle pedal if you are about to crash. Even the P100D models were a tiny bit faster 0-60 than 60-0 for this exact reason.

While its possible that Tesla is doing clever things like looking at steering angle, and allowing full braking when the wheel is straight, and then reducing braking if the driver tries to turn, they would be the only ones doing it.

Glad to see the the Carmudgeon show back up and running, great episode!

[pleasedontwatchthese]

Never stop making this podcast, its really good

[ebauer]

I think the Rivian is the perfect intersection of an all-around daily driver. Carry 5 passengers; handle any errand; carry dirt/plants/etc from Home Depot; and more, in a well-proportioned package. We're planning on getting one and it will be the vehicle we use for 90% of our needs around town. The F-150 Lightning will be compelling but it is much larger. The Rivian hits a sweet spot, in my opinion.

[shingoose]

I wasn't having the best day today. But then, I see this come up in my notifications! Thank you for turning my day around for the better. ❤️

[simonlamacraft]

My father still recounts doing warp speed in a Ford XW GT (a 351 V8 muscle car in Australia that was purported to be the fastest 4 door in the world for a period), on a country road at night, only to be hauled in and caught by a 6.3 Mercedes. To top it off, according to Dad, when door handle to door handle the driver then accelerated and proceeded off into the distance.

[dragospahontu]

I hate the fact that you can't do these in person.


P.S Good to see that you're still doing your research on the Piëch Podcast 😉

[HandsomeAlex]

Still the best car podcast on the interwebs, despite having absolutely NO schedule.

Love the Haggard Issimi sponsorship!

[rightwingsafetysquad]

The question isn't how many people use the capability of their trucks, it's how often. I bought a pickup to tow my motorcycle 3-5 times per year. But then you discover more use for it after you own it. Now I can refurbish furniture someone was going to throw out, because I have a truck to transport it home. I don't have to park 500 ft. away from work because I'm not going to leave before the gate locks, I can just drive over the curb, because I have a truck. I went exploring down a half washed away forest road that I had no need at all to drive down, just because it was there and I could.

None of that was needed. And none of it was planned other than towing the bike.

[evalonious]

46:52 Derek, what you are attempting to describe are overtones, tones that come from a frequency/pitch/note. For example if you were to strike the key of a piano you will hear overtones of other notes forming around the note you're hitting. Those are called overtones. So in other words the sound of a V6 is creating a pleasant sounding musical chord that you like. While Jason prefers the V8, but don't forget, displacement, number of cyl, turbos, superchargers, headers & exhaust along with so many other variables is what tunes the pitches.

I prefer the 2.5 Jetta SportWagen 5cyl. THERE IS NOTHING MORE FUN THEN TRACTOR FARTING BY FOLKS ON THE HIGHWAY @ 4, 000-6, 000 RPMS 😅🏁🍾

A friend of a friend lives in Hayward, CA (San Francisco East Bay) and works for Facebook in the Silicon Valley. He bought one of the new Ford F-150 mobile generators with a pickup truck attached.

He drives 22 miles each way to and from work. Because Facebook is ultra-woke and PC, they have zillions of EV chargers in their parking lot. So each day he fully charges his truck at work. Then he drives home, plugs it into his house and powers his house all night using Facebook-sourced electrons. Next morning he unplugs it, drives to work alone using the carpool lane, and the process repeats. His commute costs are reduced to zero, his home power bill is reduced to near-zero, and he gets to pass a million people each day on his way to and from work.

Brilliant.

[never_lift]

I think this episode had the biggest zigs and zags as your conversation wandered from topic to topic... .and I freaking loved it! Can't wait for the BTS 6.3 episode.

[pascutia]

Also, Jason/Derek, could you guys bring up Wolfgang Reitzle in a future episode? I only recently learned more about him, and I find it so ironic how once he left BMW, their whole direction shifted. There was an awesome podcast done with him recently where he talked more about his time at BMW,

[soulside]

My favorite car podcast. Thanks guys for keeping this alive and please film Derek’s reaction in a Tesla Plaid!