Volkswagen Arteon vs Kia Stinger vs Commodore SS-V Review | Wheels Australia

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Don't underestimate the stinger just because it is a Kia. Don't be fooled.

chevyrupleix
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The Commodore is old now. Old tech, old looks, and old engine.
Try and hit your fender on the Arteon and you'll have to either fix or change the bonnet as well because of that design that goes down to the wheel arch.
The Stinger is also available in AWD and will probably be the most reliable down the road. Way to go, Stinger.

nabilm
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He compared the interior of Stinger 330si the lower model to the top of line SS-V. He should have used the same comparable price model the Stinger GT to the SS-V. The best interior is the VW, but you have definitely compromised by having the worst performance out of the 3 cars and accepted a lower warranty level from the manufacturer compared to the KIA.

Did he mention any of the Active and Passive safety systems that the KIA or VW has. The Holden has barely any of that. This is one of the most ill informed review.

td
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You guys getting the Genesis G70? A bit smaller and lighter Stinger. Tighter suspension as well

fikes
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Same about the Commodore.
The VW is surprisingly quick for a 4 cyclinder.
I have heard there is a V6TT engine on the cards soon.

grecoconduris
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There's nothing an aftermarket exhaust can't fix in the Stinger.

HKRXPRS
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The scope for performance improvement from the Stinger once the tuners get their hands on it are "interesting".... I want one.

darthvader
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Great review mate!
Good to see great car reviews from Australia that obviously relates to buyers from down under!

brentratcliffe
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4wd stinger would make a more fair test

stp
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Would be interesting to see what a tuned Arteon would be like

unintentionallyfire
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You say that the interior in the stinger is the lower out of the 3. But Your comparing the top of the line SS and VW with the lower spec stinger.... the GT stinger has much nicer interior and it will match if not beat the interior of the other two. Especially the dunny door. The VF’s do have the nicest interior of all commos but it’s still full of cheap plastic everywhere and cheap leather

Side note to Kia. Please bring the AWD version to Australia !! Please please please.

RCSDIE
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Having just watched an Arteon review from the UK, it's a bit of a cop out to say it has a much better interior than the other two. The other review pointed out all the naff bits in the Arteon interior which weren't mentioned here, so I'm not convinced it's much better.

ArmadaAsesino
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I had an Arteon for a year and it was great but it needs more power (V6 400hp+) and a little bit more luxury inside by removing some of the plastic etc. But the Arteon has a really nice and easy tech inside it. Plus it’s gorgeous.

MrOpticBlade
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Blessed is the country where you can afford to test these cars, and this in a common way. I love Australia for that. I just found this channel now on Youtube and what a wonderful gift. I was delighted, my passion Holden Commodore facing the one who wants to replace him the incredible Kia Stinger. Thank you Wheels folks. Oh, I forgot, Volkswagen is a mere helper in this Shakespeare play.

RicardoMNogueira
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I love the outgoing commodore. Never really driven one as holden commodore are not sold in SEZ. however I was fortunate to get into one when i visited my relatives in Australia. To me it was awesome, plenty of go. Now that i hear its gone and there will be no more aussie made commodore i am sad. Same goes for the aussie made ford. Kia stinger to me looks the part and may have better torque figures but will never be a true commodore SSV replacement. The arteon it too looks nice and has a sweet All wheel drive and nice cabin but to me will always remain a German car dont get me wrong I like it but will never replace the V8 commodore.

gpierre
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i'm disappointed that you didnt use the Kia GT, I bought a ssv redline just for the joy and involvement of the engine.The breakouts are predictable and fun, and one other thing, this is the only one of the three that offer a manual, which i have. The manual is where the ssv redline shines, performance figures are irrelevant, i mean who cares if you're half a second behind, as long as there is a smile planted on your face

claudesam
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I purchased a 2018 Stinger GT2 AWD (USA) in January, and I have very few complaints. I notice a lot of reviewers constantly harp on "quality" but it feels very bias. Prior to this, I had a fully loaded 2013 X5 50i, 2010 fully loaded X6 50i, and a fully loaded 2008 335i CV. I mention "fully loaded' only because I'm trying to highlight the fact that I didn't just get an inventory special off the lot, and therefore the highest quality was expected....and never delivered. In all three of those vehicles I experienced an unbelievable number of squeaks, rattles, mechanical issues, and cheap scratchy plastic items that seemed beneath such a product/brand...and yet, all 3 vehicles were plagued by those issues.

While I can't say that the Stinger handles as well as a 335i (partly because its much larger and heavier), I do get far more tech features for at least $10k less. And lets be honest...a well equipped Stinger looks far better than any 3 series. Ive had so many more looks and compliments with the stinger than I ever had with my X6 which was an "edgy" vehicle at the time. And considering how dull and soulless BMWs have become, I can't say the marginally better build or finish quality makes up for the massive price difference.

My complaints about the stinger? Maybe a little more road noise than I'd like, and other weirdly cheap omissions like one-touch up/down windows for all 4 windows (only the front ones offered), and no 360 degree parking cameras, though I understand other countries get those options. Performance wise, yea its not quite as sticky in the corners as a 335i, but how often are you REALLY going to take a corner at 60mph?

As for the Commadore SS they compare it to, well...thats just an old pontiac/Chevy here in the states. That heads up display is literally NO DIFFERENT from my old Pontiac Grand Prix I had in college. The V-8, while loud, is gutless in comparison to modern engines. That infotainment system is garbage. The interior just looks paunchy and dated, and If you're familiar with GM brands here in the USA, its the same old drab, low-tech BS they've been pushing for years under different names. But yey for a huge back seat I guess? I mean, really?

It took A LOT to stomach the fact that I was spending BMW bucks on a Kia, but it was well worth it in my opinion. Don't get sucked into brand snobbery. The days of conspicuous consumption are better left to the douchebag MAGA assholes in lifted micro-penis trucks. If you value the biggest bang for your buck, The stinger is unrivaled.

GT-edun
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Kia has a all-wheel drive version in the GT plus they have aftermarket exhaust system for the car which sounds really good

lowemichael
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Kia stinger's design is best. I've never seen like this before

오디세이-pw
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Hi I have the Arteon, and put the stage 1 APR in, you should give one a try!

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