Intel Core Ultra 285k, 265k, 245k specs and pricing

Intel has finally announced their latest Core Ultra Series Desktop processors! Are they worth the hype?

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[Andrew-kyoccqn]

They need to bring back those old cases with the turbo button, except now they toggle 65/105W power.

[Cobinja]

The person who invented that new naming scheme has probably previously worked for a monitor manufacturer.

[DaveBjornRapp]

Everybody: listening to Jay
Me: Obsessively watching the PC behind him to see which fans turn on and off.

[ChristopherYeeMon]

Thank you for pre mashing my keyboard for me. Power consumption helps with reducing the ridiculous cooler sizes, help noise and form factor. i.e. It helps make ITX viable because it makes low profile coolers more viable. I like these developments from both Intel and AMD

[samthemultimediaman]

TBH power draw was kinda getting out of hand and is still out of hand with the GPUs, it is nice to see it getting better, we shouldn't need a dedicated circuit to run our computers in our houses.

[Yuu_Touko]

Keeping my 7800X3D for a long time. :)

[ltonos]

I like the direction they are going with the efficiency, not only because it saves power, but because that is a passive way of battling heat. Which in a way directly translates to less throttling and more stability and durability. If we have learned anything from the 2 previews Intel gens, going all the way in power for sake of performance is not that wise.

[BloodshedRomance]

Lol
Intel: "yeah but they just glued cores

Intel: We glued cores together.

[Psychx_]

Intel ditched HT due to 3 reasons.
1) Sidechannel attacks.
2) HT requires doubling the register file among other things - this saves die space.
3) Intel was planning cores that can be partitioned in-situ as part of the Royal Core architecture. Ripping out HT is a first step towards that. It's unclear whether Royal Core will ever come to market as planned though, as the project wasn't completed before Jim Keller left.

[Mariuspersem]

4:21 Some caveats to this, because in some cases you actually get a performance increase when disabling hyperthreading because the core is not split between running two tasks

[OseanBigshot]

13:20 - "But we can't 'get' anywhere in the future, if we don't 'start' somewhere. So if we don't start 'here', then we'll never get to 'there'." - Jay 2024

[lamarcdesign]

Im running the efficiency train. Same power for less wattage is great thing to see. Over years we have seen the average wattage go up and up .. i would really enjoy gpus getting less power hungry now.. 3 slot cooling - seriously that hilarious

[Gmmstr]

I mean when you wanted the best of the best before HEDT died with the 980X, 3960X, 4960X 5960X etc. you were paying usually around the 1K mark. Sure they were more equipped as well when it comes to PCI-E lanes and triple or quad-channel memory but they didn't by far have as many physical cores as we have now.

I believe they came from the same production lines as the xeons though so I mean some of the cost is explainable, but I think the current pricings isn't exactly super terrible.

Don't forget that there's inflation and raised taxes on luxury products in some countries, the i7 950 also roughly costed about 260 to 280 euros back in 2010. Fortunately motherboards weren't crazily priced even though they were very well equipped with a rich featureset we only see back on expensive threadripper/xeon platforms now. I miss the old motherboard times.

[brianwebb]

AC DC "dirty deeds done dirt cheap", a classic song.

[LOLHoneybadger]

I went from Intel to AMD when transitioning from a 9900K to newer hardware a few years ago when the 5950X was relatively new, didn't regret it then & seeing what's happened with the 13th & 14th Gen, and now how disappointing it looks like Arrow Lake will be, quite happy to keep my 7800X3D for a while longer, although I may end up getting a 9950X3D when it comes out as I'm doing workloads now that can actually use extra cores if I get them.

[bassplayer]

I'm still happy with the performance of my AMD Ryzen 9 5950X CPU.

[MrPete]

I did a 7800X3D build in August, I'm good for a few years

[kazumekku]

I'm actually really glad to see a focus on power efficiency. It takes concern away from the power budget for a power supply and graphics card and especially cooling methods. On one hand, I wouldn't be surprised if they kept on their path of more performance and more power draw, but there's no way that would've been sustainable, so on the other hand, I can completely understand how this makes sense and hopefully be their best step moving forward.

[OfficalMineTechHD]

The fact that the z790 is obsolete with the arrow lake cpus is crazy

[grmatt]

I have a 8700k system that's about 6 years old at this point. Which still works just fine for productivity stuff. I've been really interested to see how Arrow Lake stacks up, but maybe I'll wait for the second generation of these chips.