Elemental - Is It Good or Nah? (Pixar Review)

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[swag-gcp-]

To be fair, it IS established that Wade can evaporate due to too much heat. Whenever Ember would get near a water person you can see them start bubbling, and I think she even outright says at one point that she could "vaporize" Wade if they touched.

[willpower]

I’ve said this when the trailer came out: We need more stories with elements that don’t just focus on Fire and Water. Air and Earth can potentially make for interesting stories.

[damonlam]

I honestly pity the director behind this movie because he seems like a nice guy and his parents passed away during the development of Elemental so this film really means a lot to him. Too bad everything went wrong from the marketing to the reviews and now he has both “the good dinosaur” flop and “elemental” flop on his belt making me feel like he will be fire soon.

Edit: Looking back after Elemental's newly found success it's honestly bizarre what the first impressions were back then, (myself included). This is one of the reasons why I try to actively avoid first impressions like this. That being said I'm glad Elemental is doing well and while we don't know if it broke even or not, thanks to other sources of revenue it will still be a profitable film and I do hope this can be a step forward in Pixar's recovery.

[MrMgkman]

This movie really satisfied me. I don’t need every movie to be a massive, never before seen extravaganza. If I like the characters, and it makes me happy to watch that’s what I care about. This movie did that, and I haven’t smiled so much through a movie in a long time.

[vinnythewebsurfer]

Ever since Zootopia, the discourse around the usage of non humans to depict human stories has certainly been…. Interesting.

[Switchsml]

As stated in sabersparks tweet: “Pixar right now really is that straight A student in highschool who is struggling in college. It's like they can't escape the gravitational pull of their own legacy. They need something bold at this point to really shake things up imo or they will be stuck in this limbo”

[JohnstoneStudios]

Let’s be honest, it’s not the worst movie Pixar has released, but releasing the last couple of movies straight to streaming hasn’t helped

[rayn]

I think this movie was meant to be something comfortable. Something to curl up and watch on the couch when it’s raining rather than taking a bunch of people to see in theaters. Yes, it’s corny and cheesy and some parts of it were lackluster. But I really saw myself in wade and my boyfriend saw himself in Ember. As a daughter of an immigrant, I also connected to embers story and her pressure to fill her fathers shoes. This wasn’t meant to be a movie that shocks and blows people away. It’s more like a warm hug. Something familiar

[aegisblze]

Actually Schaffrillas, there is a scene where Wade and Ember both pass through a metal gate and ask "What are these even here for?". The answer is to discriminate against Earth people because Fire, Water, and Air can all easily avoid the gate.

[dafroakie]

I haven’t seen the movie myself, but that part about how the city isn’t designed with fire people in mind makes it sound like this setting would’ve been better for an ableism allegory. You wouldn’t even need to make direct parallels to certain disabilities because the message of “my environment isn’t compatible with my needs” is still easy to do. Maybe the different segments of the city are all designed for people of their element to travel through, but it’s too difficult for other elements.

[cottonycloud]

For me, it would’ve been cool if they mentioned that Ember’s art only stayed together/strong when she was happy. The more unhappy she was, the more her glasswork suffered. Idk, I just think that concept would’ve made the 3rd act climax work. They would just have to explain how her art is still connected to her

[yoshivist]

I don't get why people don't like this film. I loved it! It was so beautiful visually and heartwarming. Like a feel good rom com but with a MUCH more developed plot, a bunch of set-ups with pay-offs and no unnecessary drama between the lovers. I loved watching these characters together and will definitely be buying this as a DVD to watch on days when I need a good comfort movie. This was the kind of rom com we all need, as well as the Fire girl Water boy headcanon-canon we need.

Honestly I cried through the whole movie. It just made me feel things. And I don't even share the immigrant experience.

[Spacemuhreen]

I feel the issue with allegory is that it works when its short and to the point like most old fables. When you make full length movies or shows with non-human characters to try and make a parallels, you run into the issue that the characters just aren't human. On a fundamental level the two are different, and this often leads to only a surface level. "prejudice exists" yeah ok but thats a world of a difference between two humans being racist and like fire and water not being able to mix, or herbivore and carnivores furry characters. When its a short story about talking animals to teach a lesson, the fact they are animals doesnt actually matter to that fable.

[AmyStrikesBack]

When this movie was Announced the discussion was basically
"Don't judge a book by its cover"
"Then don't make a ugly cover"

[justrzz]

This was probably the first Pixar movie that I saw where I thought to myself “Yeah, I’m too old for this” Which is a shame, since I really wanted to like it in spite of the bad marketing.

Honestly the thing I’m worried about most is where Pixar is heading towards, considering their string of box office bombs and mixed audience reception.

[hiitsme]

Tbh I loved this movie, the glass breaking was a cool way to show Ember not being able to handle all that emotional pressure. It's an adorable movie, solid 7.5/10 for me

[calvinclardy]

I think what is turning out to be one of the biggest restrictions for Pixar is that they have to stay victim to the "It has to work out in the end" trope of kids movies. Like, I felt that Soul had such a poinient ending that taught the stages of grief and accepting death, but then, they had to go and put him back on Earth in what felt like a corporate edit to make the movie "kid friendly"

[MoonWielder]

I'm so happy that Fireboy and Watergirl finally got a movie after all these years.

[LivingFire_BurningFlame]

The race allegory doesn’t work when they are on the molecular level, incompatible.

Stories about racism work because fundamentally, all the races are the same and coexist every day with no problems. It worked with zootopia because it was a world where they already exist together despite their differences they face and it was outside forces from hateful people and unaddressed biases that made the tensions work. When the fire person could be completely extinguished by a water person just hugging them or an earth person just fell on them, that doesn’t work.

Eilo looks pretty cool though and it’s plot is so neat, I really hope it can be a great standalone movie like soul or Luca was.

[KateDixon]

I absolutely LOVED the story! I think the struggle between Ember’s want to pursue the arts versus her want to run the store and please her dad will resonate with many people who were raised with a high-pressure household.