DLSS 4- Massive Framerate Increase! Is there a catch?

With the RTX 50 series announcement, we got some amazing performance claims, but they all relied on the new DLSS 4 multi-frame generation technology. That left me with a lot of questions about what would be the latency and image quality penalties for enabling multiple generated frames between each rendered frame. We now have some additional information from Digital Foundry's early access testing using DLSS 4 on the new RTX 5080.
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[mzamroni]

Moore's law: transistor density will double every 2 years.

Jensen's law: number of fake frames generation per real frame will triple every 2 years.

[AYMANOS.]

27 fps at native 4k with a 2000$ gpu is insane

[jolco]

In 2077 they'll still be using Cyberpunk 2077 to showcase DLSS 17 and RTX 30090

[larryschnellope]

My old metric for buying a gpu was FPS… My new metric for buying a gpu is response times.

[ALEXX]

We’re only 2-3 generations away from running cyberpunk @ 4k native - RT overdrive above 60 fps!

[hollywoodmeow]

4090 msrp = *$1.6k* -> 5090 msrp = *$2k*
4090 tdp = *450w* -> 5090 tdp = *575w*
cyberpunk 4090 4k native + RT = *21fps* -> 5090 4k native + RT = *27fps*
jensen needs another leather jacket...

[elwaposv]

So this gen feels more kinda like a software update?

[SecondsGaming-]

Make an unoptimized game
Put DLSS 4
Release

[bobjames]

5090 vs 4090
30% more transistors
30% more performance
30% more power usage
30% more price
Did Nvidia really just release the 4090ti and pretend to have developed a new gen of gpu? They haven't actually worked on any chip architecture for the past 3 years, they've just been training ai models 😂😂. They're officially a software company selling dlss - the cards are just a physical license key 😅

[hazezw]

When it comes to using FPS as a proxy for the quality of a GPU I’m reminded of the saying when a measurement becomes a target it ceases to be a good measurement.

[gosuprime]

What happens if you use lossless scaling and DLSS4 at the same time? Time travel?

[isaacserban]

they made a x9 AI generated frames per frame rendered, thats somehow insane, you are seeing more AI generated images than the actual rendered game.

[AwaKeRun]

Jensen in 2028. RTX 7090 will render a game with no game launched. ALL AI with DLSS 6 Game Generation.

[eric]

In a perfectly dark room... that flash bang was brutal.

[puerlatinophilus]

Leatherjacket guy at CES 2027: Bro trust me, this card has DLSS 16x mfg.

Your 2 native FPS will look and feel smooth with it!

For fairness: AMD will present the 12005GREX3D PRO MAX++ AI

[xTRTSCx]

So this is what PC gaming has come to. Ray tracing increases latency (by decreasing FPS) and introduces noise, DLSS introduces artifacts and frame generation introduces artifacts as well and increases latency. It's a great direction we're heading. Noisty, artifacted games where you see more fake frames than real ones.

[Greez]

Remember folks, create a problem, then introduce a fix...then a fix for that fix, etc etc.

[Lonewanderer]

These cards are not much more powerful than their 4000 series equivalents. The 'performance' gain is mostly DLSS 4 and multi-frame generation. All of this can be done on the 4000 series as well, but of course is locked to the 5000 series for obvious reasons.

[Bassalicious]

If it looks that shaky when panning that slowly, imagine the horrors you're going to see in a frantic gun fight using a mouse.. No thanks.

[toreole]

3:17 also what i find super *weird* is that in the dlss 3.5/4 versions, the counter surface suddenly has details that werent present in the original no-dlss render… something to think about