How Trump Plans to End the Ukraine War

Curious about Trump's peace deal in Ukraine? Find out what it really looks like in this video, covering all aspects of the Russo Ukrainian War and its impact on the region.
Big thanks to @historylegends for joining us on the program!

[historylegends]

Thank you for inviting me over Monsieur Z, ce fut un plaisir! 🫡🫡 Hope your audience will appreciate my intervention, and maybe we can do this again in 3-4 months to analyze how the situation has evolved.

[TheDion]

I think the biggest sticking point will be Ukraine's militarisation.
Russia wouldn't accept a MORE militarised and stronger Ukraine no matter how much land they get in exchange.
And Ukraine* wouldn't want to be left weaker and at the mercy of a future invasion to take the rest of their land.

Edit: * And Ukraine's Allies.

[AmirSatt]

Ukrainian arms minister said that 75% of all military supplies needed to replenish losses comes from the West, thus Ukraine cannot defend itself alone, and would have been grinded down without western support. So realistically Ukraine has to compromise, if its western allies choose to do so

[Daniel-jmts]

I dont understand the first peace agreement. Giving up everything east to the Diniper would be devastating for ukriane, which would also lose its 2 biggets city without it being actually occupied. Its also far more ambisious than the current russian objective, which is to only occupy the 4 oblasts they officially "annexed"

[hotchocolateconnoisseur]

So Ukraine is a country in Europe… it exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia is a powerful country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine. So basically that’s wrong.

[DioTheGreatOne]

1960s: Republicans accusing anyone who is against American interference in foreign countries of being a soviet spy.

2020s: Democrats accusing anyone who is against American interference in foreign countries of being a Russian spy.

My my how the tables have turned!

[bobmcbob]

I don’t think you understnd quite how Eastern Europe works, how stubborn these people are. These are countries used to being entirely or partly occupied for centuries at time but never giving up on the hope of reclaiming lost independence or lands.

Look at Poland’s centuries of near-constant rebellion during the partition, Serbia’s 500 year struggle against the Turks, whose aims were not just independence but also the eventual reclamation of Kosovo and Metohija from the Turks, the Croatian thousand-year dream of self rule, and then not being ok with giving up Krajina to get independence peacefully, even though Krajina was a poor mountain backwater full of Serbs. For a more recent example look at the Serbs’ current attitudes towards the Kosovo Dispute.

These people even against literally impossible odds and vast empires do not give up on lands they have become attached to. They may lose land or even independence but they will always view this as temporary and constantly struggle to reverse it.

Ukraine will never accept peace in the long term if it loses land, but of course Russia will not accept peace if it doesn’t gain land. And Russia if nothing else views Crimea as absolutely integral by now and would similarly strive for it for centuries if it was ever lost again I think

[zombiedalekweck]

Any peace in Ukraine would last at most 20 years lol

[Kristof]

It feels like this channel has no comprehension of the actual state on the ground of the War in Ukraine

[Delly]

Europe needs to get its shi together. I understand Ukraine is fighting for survival and Russia is desperate rn… but the rest of Europe needs to figure their defense out and stop relying on us

[GreatKhanMatt]

We need a peace deal, but we need one that will keep the peace for decades not just a ceasefire.

[aldraone-muyg]

I don't know why pepole describe Ukraine as a forever war, in US "Forever Wars" Vietnam/Afghanistan/Iraq the problem is the occupation not the war.
They tend to win that part.

[christiantaylor]

You are actually insane if you think Ukraine is going to give up land that has not been held by Russia by the time negotiations start

[GreatKhanMatt]

There is no way all land east Dnieper goes to Russia, Europe nor Ukraine won't ever accept this.

[pbh]

I don't see why Ukraine joining NATO would be acceptable to Russia and i do see one reason for Russia to end the war, it terrible demographics.

[FrankiePhoenix]

I don't see how giving half of Ukraine's capital city would be considered a fair trade that would wven be considered. I also don't see how you could even suggest that keeping Kyiv on the border with Russia would ensure safety for Kyiv, given Russias recent history regarding taking Kyiv. This is not a compromise. Ukraine shouldnt be expected to give any extra successfully defended land to Russia. Moscow would still accept it gladly, and it would give Kyiv that buffer area, which Russia agrees that capital cities in that region absolutely require.

[nathansamuelson]

Whatever deal comes about, if it doesn't include security guarantees for Ukraine it's a non starter.

[gumdeo]

Any part of Ukraine being in NATO is unrealistic.

[SVGGMNG]

I don’t see Ukraine giving up its northern territories, it will fight without American support, Europe is preparing to back Ukraine and they will fight.

[Chill]

There's one problem with your theory that Russia will take Odessa

They don't have ANY naval capabilities in the black sea. A good chunk of their Navy is underwater now.