SOUND Super 8 Cameras & Film | CAN YOU USE THEM?

Did you pickup a fancy Super 8 camera that can record sound? Wondering if you can use it to start making some home movies with audio? Well these cameras can't be used like they used to, but that doesn't mean they're useless! I'm taking a look at Sound Super 8 cameras and film!

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[GordonGlenn]

In the 1970's, when I was going to college, I was working at Henry's Camera & Hi-Fi at 7th & Olive in downtown Los Angeles when Kodak reps came to the store to demo the EktaSound Super 8 cameras before they were released. They were pretty remarkable considering the technology of the day. Interesting Fact: On the side of the camera was an image of a sound clip. The rep said it was a visual representation of someone saying the word "Kodak."

[strider]

Second. Also I really wish sound film was reintroduced.

[snake]

You should make a video on regular 8mm film would love to see that!

[mr.commenter]

Love seeing these kinds of informative videos! 🎥🎞️

[plonker]

This channel is a life saver whenever I’m in need of knowledge on what film stock to use or what this camera does there’s almost definitely a detailed video on it

[williamgottlieb]

The frame of film and the sound for that frame are spaced apart because the stop and go advancement of the projected image needs to transition to a steady fluid motion for the sound strip. Cameras and projectors are designed to have the same spacing of these components, so if both machines are working properly, the projected film and the audio for it will be in sync.

[Kodachrome]

Good video.
Back in the late 70’s I purchased a Canon 514xls camera. Looks like the one you have here. I really wasn’t a fan of the sound cameras but I was a fan of the sound projectors. I liked recording background music on the balance track. Sound ran 18 frames ahead of picture, so editing was awful. Also the camera was very noisy and that camera noise was recorded on the sound track.
The Nizo has a great lens. I used one in college back in the 80’s.
Also the microphones on the cameras and projectors were awesome and I still use one today for sound recording on my computer.

[MalteAaronVeh]

super helpful and very interesting as i just got a canon sound super 8 camera for my birthday, thank you so much!

[Lennon]

Thanks a lot. I bought a sound super8 camera immediately when you told it works with normal super 8 film as well.

[rexjolles]

I use them at family barbeques and stuff because my grandpa gave it to me. My uncle digitized a bunch of super 8 tapes from thier childhood and they were hilarious

[ernestmegerdechian]

As a novice enthusiast still having my childhood 70s Super8 films you addressed a lot of questions. I've been looking for a Super8 sound camera but now I know the film no longer exists. Will be looking for a regular Super8 camera going forward. I'll check your other posts for any projector recommendations so I can watch the movies. Thanks so much.

[TheSureShannonShow]

Thank you for sharing this valuable information. I been plotting on buying super8 film for my camera.

[socialist]

Don't forget you can still get super8 and Normal8 film sound striped. The sound stripe on these sound carts was actually a liquid kind of sound stripe called paste stripe. You can still get your film sound striped with paste or laminate sound stripe in Germany or Italy. I sometimes do wild sync with super8 and then synchronize the sound back to my sound film. Although this only works with small clips of about 10 to 20 seconds tops. You could also use double sound systems. One nice example is the more rare double system of Fuji with a synchronized cassette recorder and a single8 camera with a special sync accessory. The systems allowed to sync the sound from the cassette recorder to the post striped film with a sync projector in combination with a sync box. You also have those do it yourself sound strippers. Like the juwel. Both I have in my collection. And don't forget the sound viewers, a must have when you want to edit sound film. I use it in combination with a fujica 2 track splicer. With this splicer you leave both tracks free. So they can both be used. If you want some more info about those double systems let me know. There a few different systems out there. For example you have the one I just mentioned with a sync tape recorder but you also had systems with perfo tape and sync pulsed reel to reel recorders (cassette recorder also works with pilot tone).

[oldradiosnphonographs]

I have one of those ektasound cameras from 1973 lol. my other S-8 cameras are a bare bones Bentley B-3 and a B&H 1225. They were just local finds. I guess I need to do better lol. Not a fan of those B&H projectors because they eat film, but I have Kodak Moviedeck 285 which seems to work good other than the auto rewind kicking on, but I do like the little pull out screen on the side. I also have another Kodak instamatic projector where you’re suppose to put your 50 ft reel in these black plastic carts for easy threading. I’ve learned a lot watching your videos so far. Great channel! 👍

[jaredvogt]

I recorded a birthday party for my cousin on Kodak Vision 3 200T super 8mm film in the Pro8mm “Rhonda Cam”, and recorded audio on my iPhone. The sound would match with the film at times, but slip out of sync as well. It was fun, and my family loved it even though the sound was not in sync very well.

[AnaloguePhoto]

Looking forward to that video on using the 1000Hz impulse for achieving synchronized sound with a super 8 camera and an external recorder. Possibly a newer digital one?!?
Hey, the future is here already. T'would be a video I would see for sure.

[nicholassheffo]

Starting with the regular 8mm Farichild movie camera, magnetic stripe arrived for movies and some fresh 8mm film was pre-striped for sound, something some companies did for Super 8 and those cartridges sometimes show up. Yes, you should do a video on Super 8 cameras that recorded sound separately, maybe noting how some of Fuji's Single 8 cartridge with Super 8 film inside also did magnetic sound or the one model that wrote optical sound on silent film. My only other thing to say is that you can still get old, unopened Super 8 sound cartridges and record sound on them and use them, though many have to be developed in back and white. Some later sound cartridges can still be developed for color and they include Agfa Moviechrome (from 1982, but try anything from 1986 onward because the older cartridges have yellow calcium and mold; also issued under the Perutz, Revue (from 1986 onward) and (from 1983 onward) Porst names, )and Kodak 7244 Supermatic film was the first E6 color, but that series have mixed results, though it is one of three 200ft. sound cartridges that you are most likely to get color from. Kodachrome is dead and Kodak 7242 has all kinds of fading and grain issues. I'll be shooting two older Super 8 Sound cartridges with older color, but have the older chemicals to develop them and three microphones to ry out, including that one you have from the Ektasound 140 camera. Thanks for another excellent video!

[HDVbyMG]

I started my business making super 8 films for small companies and community orgs. Considering all the challenges of making the format work, it is a miracle that my business survived that stage. One of the biggest challenges was getting around the noisy cameras. The camera makers failed to adequately address this problem.

[coltoncampbell]

Thank you, just bought a Canon 514 XL-S because it was a good deal on eBay. Nice to know that I can use film still made haha. My camera did come with two old rolls expired in the early 80s of Type A Kodachrome 40 & Type G Ektachrome 160 though, so I may use them with sound or may not. It would be cool if I could get those processed somewhere.

[stationmanager]

I shot news in the Pacific with Super 8 when it was in vogue. Nice light format to use, but limited in many areas. Cameras weren't designed for humid conditions. The Euro cameras are the best. But these days the Super 8 format, I believe is just a dream, BUT FUN.