Libertarian Socialism Debunked

In this video I debunk "Libertarian Socialism" and go over why it is a self contradictory and nonsensical ideology that relies on flawed and outdated understanding of theory to pass muster.

Libertarian Socialism comes in many forms, but they are all flawed in the same way - they do not actually respect property rights, and gladly give those rights to the state under the misguided belief that they are actually giving it to some "Collective".

00:00 Intro
01:32 Defining Libertarianism and Socialism via Lexico-Oxford
03:49 Revisiting the Political Compass
08:02 "Libertarian Socialists" Are confused Progressives
11:21 Refuting common LibSoc arguments
11:32 Arguing Semantics
13:58 The Motte and Bailey
15:21 You can't include its success in an ideas definition
16:12 "Capitalizm iz Fascizm!!11oneone!!"
16:39 The Voluntary Lie
17:40 Debunking the "Coconut Island" Analogy
20:33 Conclusion

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[Hank..]

Total tankie victory would be the most annoying thing ever. Because, as you stand against the wall, waiting your turn for your brain to be liberated from your skull, you'd be next to ancoms. In that moment, you'd find no catharsis, because the ancom would never be smart enough to realize they were wrong. Instead, you'd spend your final moments seething as the ancom wonders aloud, "how did the fascists manage to infiltrate and corrupt our plan?"

[dewisselaar]

What's interesting is many ancoms claim work in their society would be completely voluntary, yet Kropotkin himself believed communes should kick out or "disassociate with" those who refuse to do their "fair share." Basically if you don't do the jobs the commune thinks you should be doing, you will be denied resources and a livelihood.

[markgel]

Didn’t Chomsky also simp for the Khmer rogue and denied the Cambodian genocicde

[badman]

I'm an Anarcho-statist. I want anarchy with government intervention.

[ranman]

I call it "Sex, Drugs, and Rock 'n' Roll" Libertarianism. All benefit, no responsibility.

[TheFloatingSheep]

being an "anarcho"-communist and supporting state welfare and such
is like being an anarcho-capitalist but applauding the idea of the state making smartphones
Just because you're a fan of the end result, you don't get to support it regardless of how it's done

It's quite literally like calling yourself a vegan and eating chicken, just because you strive for vegan chicken in the grander scheme of things, but yakno, until you get some, might as well get some real chicken

[danielsurvivor]

17:06 Also they already have this. Really if "Libertarian" Socialists don't want big government solution to achieving Socialism nothing stops them.
Infact them citing co op successes in their works only makes OUR point.
"Oh so you CAN have successful co ops without government? Then why don't you make them then? We aren't stopping you so why aren't you doing anything?"

[Generik]

When I was in high school I was a "Libertarian Socialist."

Then I realized how stupid, illogical and contradictory that was so now I am just a minarchist libertarian.

[TheAceman]

My answer to the Coconut Island analogy: "When tyranny arises, humans usually kill their overlord and divide the spoils for themselves." We only need a political system when we want to work together.

[Im_Schiz]

If you leave “social security” up to the individual, like how it was decades ago, the burden of caring for the elderly would once again fall upon the family and community. We have strayed away from community and family values, which is a big shame.

[grantstratton]

Did anyone else hear anarcho-communism and immediately start thinking of Monty Python and the Holy Grail? Or am I old in addition to being incredibly nerdy?

[mementomori]

Just took the test myself and got Libertarian Anarchist... Not sure how I feel about that. I guess it fits that my biggest gripe in being born this early is that we're at least a century away before I can just blast off into space and become a space farmer or something. Light years away from the nearest bureaucrat.

Post : Also, really youtube? You're censoring my comments now?

[didimockets]

Wow! Just found your channel and I'm impressed by how good your arguments are! Keep up the great work! Subscribed!

[tomgage]

This always felt like a trick to me. It sounds like a dream and it mostly is. "Libertarian Socialism", like all Socialisms, cannot survive contact with reality, but "Libertarian Socialism" will bring about the worst form of State tyranny. I honestly fear this type of Socialism the most. "Libertarian Socialism" evangelizes being yourself to the fullest degree, while not having to worry about anything, because the State will handle any shortcomings.

This sounds "nice", but its effects on Society are insidious and this is seems to be by design. It creates an uncompromising nature in people, which makes it impossible for different groups to come to an understanding, while promoting schisms inside groups making them wholly weaker. Thus creating a greater reliance on the State for support as "Individuals" become increasingly isolated.

You see this today with Identity Politics and such. They seemingly want people to abandon everything in pursuit of their "True Self", and to admonish anyone who questions this. I called this a trick and I mean it. You have to understand, the part where this is a Contradictory ideology does not matter to them, its an intended quality. Socialists in general do not care for Contradictions and "Libertarian Socialism" is no different, they simply want Socialism. "Libertarian Socialism's" true intentions seem to be to fracture society to the point where any organized resistance could never form, since no one would be able to trust each other or would be too dependent on the state for support.

In its end state you'll be sad, alone, and addicted to the State. It's a trick.

[tavernburner]

auth right people may respect property right more than auth left people but thats a very low bar to clear. most authy right people I know are classical corporatists.

[IsolationStreams]

Great video. Tired of fake “libertarians”.

[thefrenchareharlequins]

11:56 it was used in 1789 to refer to a belief in free will (this is important in praxeology)

[NekoBoyOfficial]

Gish Gallop perfectly explains modern gender ideology. Something new every freaking day.

[noclipperalta]

The anarchist just change the name of the state to "union", "comune" or "syndicate".

[father]

This is why political trichotomy is better than political compass