How do the Dune Guild Heighliners Work? #dune #scifi #space

Dune heighliners explained.
Song: Arthur Vyncke - A Few Jumps Away

[InternetRat]

The portrayal of heighliners in the movies isn’t canonically accurate. The newer Dune Prophecy series gets it right. Heighliners work by “folding” space around them to travel vast interstellar distances in an instant. In other words, they envelope themselves in a kind of wormhole that allows the spacecraft to take a shortcut through a higher dimension and circumvent the laws of relativity which normally prevent faster-than-light travel.

[JaguarMexica]

It's interesting the design of the ship in this film resembles more a sandworm, considering that the sand worms are the creatures responsible for creating the spice. The Spacing Guild it's making a tribute to the creature who they depend on to exist.

[WillaLamour]

This is nothing like the books. Here’s the quote about how they traveled from the original novel:

"The heighliners were guided by Guild Navigators, users of the spice melange, whose prescient ability enabled them to find the best course:

"They're searching for me, " Paul said. "Think of that! The finest Guild navigators, men who can quest ahead through time to find the safest course for the fastest Heighliners, all of them seeking me . . .and unable to find me. How they tremble! They know I have their secret here!”

The ships used a Holtzman generator, which folded space; this mode of travel seemed to take no time. The Guild Navigator determined the best path through fold space."

[peoplez]

It's just a different concept of folding space. You don't have to unfold space to get somewhere, you're connected as soon as you fold it, but you won't exactly be in two points at the same time. So the ship isn't in two places at once, but rather, different parts of the ship are on different ends of the fold. If you looked from the back end of the ship, you'd probably still see the other location, just from a different angle, and could probably even enter it that way too.

[romanfurman]

Read about the Holtzmann Effect. Simply put it to words, it’s like teleportation through a wormhole.

[yorganyog]

I notice that too!!! Finnally someone noticed and talked on youtube!!

[christopherneufelt]

It is a little bit difficult to explain, but the designers consulted a physicist. The Spaceship is actually a torus where the internal ring is the current coordinate system. While the Spaceship is a appearing as a tube, you must to consider that the whole spaceship is just the torus opened between to distinct coordinate systems. Exists some problems with this view, mostly the problem of synchronization, but hell ya, its movie time!

[personalspace]

Just Hollztman'ś space folding engine. Thst guy was a true genious in Dune universe ahd the lore😊

[rdwillia]

In the books there is still a technology called the holtzman engines that produces power ... the space guild comes in place where in dune past the "ai thinking machines" would be there to attach to the engine and do the calculations to determine the path to travel in space, instead the spacing guild comes in and replaces this computer - that is why they are addicted to spice '.. spice gives them visions of the future

[JackSmith-ukcv]

Each end of the ship is in a different part of space. One part is where you started from the other is at you destination

[Trae-np]

I think it’s working the exact same as it does in dune prophecy we’re just not seeing the gravitational lensing of the wormhole. It’s hollow and as it passed through the worm hole one side of is still in the other system so you can see through it and see the other planet, possibly the same for the other side. Maybe this a design choice to prevent ambiguity on where the craft is originating from.

[brandonhamilton]

I love how can see almost scrapes and damage on the opening extending for a bit. It shows that when they show up they are moving super fast. Enough the gouge out the front.

[rudra]

That’s cool. So a planet inside a ship? Basically carrying the planet to different destinations around the universe? That is madness, what a thought!

[ledzeppelin]

The 1984 film explains it quite well. The guild navigators fold space, travelling without moving. The Highliners are just the vehicle for transport.

[rdwillia]

the spice gives them ability to see into the future and see which space routes will lead them to their destination .. otherwise before the spacing guild .. interstellar travel was risky since you might run into a planet or sun along the way. .... much like the theory of warp drive and hyper space as in star trek or star wars.

[khyr]

The ships were portrayed as 65, 000 feet long. It's a struggle for most fighter jets to get to 65, 000 feet ftom sea level.

[morlanius]

Its quite well described in the books.

[nanky]

My explanation would be that some sort of light refraction echo is still present in the area around ships warp engines as a result of their space bending capabilities. So we are not actually seeing a direct image of the other stars planet, but rather a refraction of it’s light that still exists because of the weird way warp engines work when manipulating space time. As the ships engines radiate energy out after a warp jump they ultimately lose this echo effectively causing them to be anchored more to their current space time rather than to their pass.

[prismaticbeetle]

its a form of stellar folding, what you see on the "back end" is the residual image left by the point of origin which will dissipate when the "folding" process is complete.

think of it like when you move your hands really fast and their is a flickering light, you can see multiple "hands" left behind your actual hand, its just an optical illusion, but it does give you accurate data, so its more of an optical delay.

[djcfrompt]

The depiction in the latest films makes it look like the supergates from Stargate, just on a much larger scale. But that doesn't track the description of finding a path through space, if you know where the "gates" are and are just connecting them. Dune 84 shows a large ship moving places, which seems to track more with the description given.