Don't Make This Garden Fencing Mistake

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Roger looks at what can be done when installing your fence to prevent damage caused by strong winds to give you some stormproof fencing.

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We bought our house new 20 years ago... the builders had used wooden posts about every 2.4m... we had strong winds snap off the fence at the ground on 3 sides on three separate occasions... I bought the tools and the materials... concrete posts and gravel boards and rebuilt my fences...didn't buy new panels...disassmbled my old fence every nail and rebuilt it into panels to fit between the posts... This saved me money as I didn't have to buy new panels and I had next to nothing to dispose... even the old fence posts... sawed them off square at the ragged base and used them in other (non fence) applications.

JHS
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I worked for a fencing company who made proper strong fences, over did it with the digging, with the concreting, so much attention to detail it really makes shoddy fences stand out and I think there's no excuses for bad fencing. Lap pannels, silly rail brackets, either go concrete with closeboard pannels, or post and rail with spurs

Syncronizeification
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I replaced my back fence 2yrs ago and did the entire job out of Accoya, expensive but it will last decades and decades. All the fixings are stainless steel and I designed it so air can pass through it. It's a damn fine picket style fence, treated with Architectual solignum and when I do treat it again all the slats come off to paint and the rails... Proper job. Gloating moi?.... Yep. :-) Tanalized panels, posts are nothing like they were 30yrs ago. The Tanalith barely penetrates 2mm deep in most cases. Shocking stuff.

adriansams
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When I used to do fencing. We always recommend concrete post & gravel boards with good quality panels. I never went back to a failed fence using this method.

barryford
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so funny, no matter what i do in the day, The Biz has a video about it by the evening. Although I imagine a lot of us are up to this particular activity at the moment.
Blessed be the fencers

triedzidono
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Wooden post - If one end is bone dry and the other end saturated then always somewhere there will be a point of perfect humidity for fungi to grow and rot the post. Concrete is great in the ground and the best choice for longevity.

TurinTuramber
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Agree with Roger, don't be fooled by the words "Traditional" Lap Fence Panels 😅 as they're, flimsy, light and there's nothing traditional about them 😨 For starters the "thin" section perimeter wood is held together with 15g brads (not galvanised nails) & their life expectedly is suprisingly short.. If you do however still choose them (because you have those concrete posts they slide into), do not under any circumstances try to pick them up on your own just because they're light. A workmate I use to know picked one up, hands fully outstretched and a gust of wind caught the panel. His feet stayed firmly planted on the ground but his body/waist twisted/swivelled whist he was holding the fence panel and it completely did his back in for the rest of his life and he suffered chronic back pain. So make sure there's two of you when handling these panels 🖒😀

rockymount
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2:36 That fence is great for between gardens Roger but on a public boundary it has a lot of hooligan potential to be ripped apart and give ladder access to a private part of a garden. I built one in London 30 years ago and it didn't last to the following morning, just far too many leverage points, cheers.

ooslum
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Many concrete posts you can get now are nowhere near as good as the old ones. We did a fence last year, bought the best posts we could, but on cutting one we found the rebar was flimsy compared to the 30+ year old old posts, and the concrete was not as good quality either. Next door had a fence fitted 5 weeks back, 3 of the concrete posts themselves cracked and failed at their base at ground level in the storm last week. My fence stayed up though 🙂

MrJozza
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Love this guy. None of your videos have come up in my feed for some times. Time to catchup!

ChrisHansonDev
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you mention about the concrete posts and people may not like the look of them - the fence at 2:41 has the concrete posts but cladded(?) in the same wood as the panels themselves. Very nice job that one

yourundoing
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I do agree with most of what you have said Roger . Concrete posts do by far out last timber posts but is it more environmental friendly to put timber in the ground than Concrete?? . And the cost of putting Concrete posts is more labour involved.

Lee-qutk
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I did all my fences last year with Durapost metal posts as didn't like concrete and timber always rots. Really easy system to use and install for the DIYer. Also, I made sure that all my fence panels had stainless steel nails as opposed to zinc so I didn't get black staining running down them.

shbrooks
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I've got an old wooden 6 feet tall fence with cross rails and slats and wooden posts (7.5 x10cm), along a boundary, put up by a well known house builder 20 years ago, and have had to either buttress and shore up rotting posts or put in new posts altogether over the years (about 7 times in total). The old pergola has come in very handy to cannibalize parts, as some of the tanalised timber posts are 15x15cm, meaning it's just my labour, coach screws and a couple of bags of postfix to do a repair job.

markusass
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If you've already got them flimsy fence panels, you can strap them across with galvanized wire. 6/6 panels top and bottom on one side and middle on other side. Coat panels with oil based paint/creosote. Them panels will last 20years + with coat of paint every few years of course.
I don't use wooden post for fence, however when a feature requires it, I fill the base of hole with gravel, place the post in position and concrete slightly above ground level with a slope away from the post. This way any water penetrated the post will eventually drain off into gravel rather than getting trapped at bottom off post.

MrSagsta
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Concrete slot posts are great with close boards panels. If have to have timber then feather edge and Arris rail is pretty sturdy and if treated a few times will last 15+ years.

TurinTuramber
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Great advice Rodger.
My greenhouse stood up well apart from a missing rooflight window. The auto opener doesn't know what to make of it all 🤣

roysammons
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Durapost purchased from a company called kudos fencing replaced old fence in our new home and it is rock solid and not going anywhere anytime soon strongly recommend it

Rory
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If you don't like concrete posts then just paint them with fence paint. Thought it might wash off but no. My whole problem length now has concrete repair posts all the way. Slatted is the way to go on the panels. Great video.

johncoppock
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Have a look at Rhino greenhouses. Expensive, but they can handle high winds and have a 25 year guarantee ! I lost 6 lap panels out of 13, so replacing with close board instead. The wood used for the bracing is so much more substantial for not much more money.

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