Things Are Looking TERRIBLE For Coding Bootcamps in 2024 😬

I've been seeing a lot of bad things about coding bootcamps and learning code on the internet lately and I just wanted to share that with you guys.

[DorianDevelops]

What are your thoughts about coding bootcamps in 2024?

[JustJordan]

I started a bootcamp in August and got a junior dev role in December. It's true, you really DON'T learn enough on a bootcamp to be job-ready, you have to prove yourself with projects and be able to confidently demonstrate your technical ability and emphasise your willingness to learn to get your foot in the door. Don't lie and oversell yourself, employers are not stupid and can see straight through that.

[TheBusinessDiscussion]

silent prayer for people doing bootcamps now. Thanks for being open and honest about it man

[ninjaskter]

I attended The Chubb Institute which professed "the full immersion" coding school in 1999 and it didn't cost me anything. It was a rigorous COBOL camp. Their deal was that they would place you with one of their clients, and then take a portion of your salary for the first 8 months. Usually then the company would hire you directly. All 30 of us students were placed to work with one of their companies, before we even finished the bootcamp program. I worked for the company that they placed me with, for about 2 years programming w/ COBOL for the NYC FMS System, and then I transitioned to Web Development. I think The Chubb Institute was probably one of the first bootcamps even though they didn't call themselves a bootcamp.

[chrisnortonjr]

Bootcamps generally give you a crash course in development but not enough for employment, especially with this market. My buddy's wife just got out of one and they paid 20k for her to not find a job. They didn't tell her that she needed to have a portfolio with projects and I'm sure they didn't tell her what types of projects she needs. So now I'm coaching her on stuff that her bootcamp should have taught her.

[armyoftwo]

I’m going into tech, going back to community college to get a certificate. I know the odds are stack against me, I will get a tech job no matter what. Good luck to everyone!

[codebyday]

I taught at edx, for cybersecurity and coding bootcamp, many people think a bootcamp will get them jobs but thats not true, we see the numbers and we see about 3-4 students get jobs after the bootcamp, 3-4 students out of a class 50 will get a job...most of the time the job they get isn't even coding related or cyber related, its help desk lol.

To be fair the same thing can be said about a degree, many people think a degree will promise them a cyber or software role but it wont. so what is the best way to get in tech? hands on experience. build a portfolio, build projects, show you have skills, forget the certs, those are trash too, but hands on experience is valuable. this is why self taught engineers get jobs because most of the time they show they know the skills through hands on skills, projects, etc.

[jansleyreal]

Not coding, but I’ve done a UX bootcamp, and it helped me stay accountable and was useful to learn the foundations of the UX process. HOWEVER, it was not enough to land a job, and requires a lot of work after the bootcamp to be reasonably competitive.

[petekrumb]

a doctor, an astronaut, a gardener and now a tech Youtuber, so inspirational

[justsid]

One of the renowned and venerable coding bootcamps here in San Antonio, Texas known as CodeUp recently shut down. They had the advertising down to a T and drew many, many, many a student. I almost fell for it but backed out last minute. Best 10k, I've never gambled away.

[Kerwell]

im a self taught dev, to the point where im just trying to hone my skills and doing more projects. I thought about getting a loan for a bootcamp, but was leaning against it. I can't really afford to get the degree, so the besti can do is work on it. I'll just keep grinding and hope it works out

[GKustom]

Even with a degree I've heard it's more difficult.If that's the case all non traditional software paths are going to be under distress

[bjni]

Holy shit, people in NA are so brainwashed by silicon valley/cushy rich programmer stereotypes that they shoot themselves in the foot. if you take a more grounded approach there are PLENTY of jobs, No, you dont have to be paid 160-250k out of a bootcamp or a freshgrad at some fancy silicon valley startup or FAANG. for example over here in Japan there are tons of jobs that hire people with 0 experience and train them from the ground up, a 30k a year job is just a normal job, work that for a few years as a python coder optimizing the backend or dataflows for some energy company or some factory and keep learning and adding skills and when the job market picks up you will have actual years of work experience to apply to bigger companies if you wanted to.

[christineml]

Love your content, you cut through the BS and give us the info we need.

[alexh]

As bad as bootcamps are, I think the problem is more so people wanting to learn coding with the objective of getting job within less than one year of learning to code. it takes Time and you really have to have a passion for it and understand that the money part comes later if you want to be a successful programmer and get a job. It needs to be a long term goal and you should want to learn to code solely for the sake of wanting to learn to code if that makes sense.

[reyreyalldayday]

I'm one of those students that got hired by a bootcamp. The market is quite rough. I haven't found a job in around 2 years. I've had some small contract stuff here and there. I can absolutely code, but hiring managers aren't really looking for that, they need that turn key employee that has has experience with the more nuanced stuff with coding jobs. Chicken egg forever.

[CodingPhase]

yeah Holberton School is a school in Connecticut I had a subscriber reach out to me in 2018 and tell me he was going to go there and then came back to me in 2020 and I helped get his first job but till this day he still paying for the loan it's actually 3x the price of the average bootcamp.

[amb]

I'm currently in a bootcamp for full stack development. Now that I'm near graduating, I know that the company conflates their placement rates as well as places students in any job just to continue government and stakeholder funding. Some grads from the cohort of early last year still looking for jobs. It's just another cash cow dressed up like they are doing something for the underemployed community in my city.

[richboii]

Companies used to be desperate for developers but now the market is SUPER over saturated. There are 60k computer science grads every year and even those people are having a lot of trouble finding work. I think it’s like 90%+ of developers have at least a bachelors degree. If I’m a hiring manager and I get 200 applicants why would I even look at someone without a CS degree when there’s 100+ that have one? This is what happens when things get overhyped. It just is what it is.

[mattmatt]

To say the least, they're EXPENSIVE AF. Thanks for your content 🙏