impact wrench hog ring vs pin detent (dewalt)

If you are wondering which to get and are new to this the easiest way is if you only need one socket and never need to change sizes , get a pin detent, if you need to change sizes a lot like working on your car get the hogring, if you like to change sockets easily without pulling on the socket very hard BUT still want a little bit of retention for the socket get the detent and grind the pin down, if you don't care about any retention and just like the socket to be lose so it falls off easy get either and remove the pin or the hogring.
Here is a hog-ring anvil or "friction ring" on the dewalt dcf899HB . It is a c-clip over a rubber o-ring on the end of the anvil.
When you push the socket on, the clip gets compressed and grips the inside of the socket. As you put more use on your impact, the ring will wear and provide less friction, you will then need to replace the clip.

The good thing about the friction ring is you can put the socket on any orientation. You do not have to line up the hole in the socket. You don't have to think about it. The bad thing is, when the ring is new, it is quite hard on your shoulder having to struggle to pull off the socket. If you need to make many socket changes, it is slow and hard on your shoulder.

The dewalt dcf899B (or dcf899p1 kit) pin detent anvil. The pin is tapered and allows you to push the socket on and with
some effort you can pull the socket off. The advantage of this type of pin is you can put the socket on without aligning the pin, this allows you to pull the socket off with ease, using your fingers.

This is useful especially if you need to change between multiple sockets, you don't have to struggle to pull them off.

But if you do want to lock the socket on securely, you can align the hole with the pin and it takes a bit of effort to remove. Or you could stick a screwdriver or something to push the pin down

I really like the pin on the ryobi P260, it is a little more low profile and provides just enough resistance not to lock the socket on. I'm going to remove the dewalt pin and grind it to see if I can get it like the Ryobi as I don't need the pin to be so secure.

I think maybe the hog ring anvil may be stronger because it is not drilled in 2 places to fit the pin detent(but not sure just a guess)

I'm not sure how the pin looks on the milwaukee cordless impacts, like a 2762-22 , if it is tapered or straight. If it is straight then you would need a tool to push it down even to put on the socket. But when I look at the picture on milwaukee tool site it looks tapered.

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[Jademyheart]

What a marvelous video,
No inane music 😩
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[adamgrocco]

Excellent video. I'm choosing an impact wrench at the moment and this has explained the differences between Hog and Detent. Thanks!

[MR-vjdn]

Wonderfully demonstrated. I really appreciate that you take the time to show multiple times. Thank you for sharing!

[scotthicks]

Best explanation of the hog ring I’ve seen on YouTube. Thanks!

[KunalVaidya]

super useful to the point explanation of the difference between hog ring and detent . especially the part where you showed how we can use detent pin in two modes

[jpwiggins]

I loved the voice over at 5:17 when he pulls the pin and since it is spring loaded, I am sure it flew across the room.

[duramax]

My friggin desalt wouldn’t let go of my sockets, very frustrating sick of fighting with it, you’ve saved me any aggravation in the future, thanks from Canada.

[BigDaddyRat]

Thanks for explaining. I thought it was something I was doing that caused difficulty getting sockets off my hog ring,

[PunjabiKush]

Thanks! I was wondering why my 1/2 inch sockets weren’t fitting my new impact air gun. Makes a lot more sense now that the gun is so new.

[thewholls]

I try to avoid the pin detent impacts because to set the pin up they have to drill a hole in the Anvil

and it creates a weak spot I’ve had one break straight through

they can (not always) snap like a carrot

the hog ring design is stronger

[TobyCostaRica]

5:13 Gave me 1911 disassembly flashbacks

[FredrickII]

Thanks for this. Nice to know I’m not the only one! I’ve had neck pain all day from pulling on the Milwaukee “Shockwave” socket stuck in my Milwaukee impact ratchet.
It lives up to its name, sending shocks up my arm to my sore neck. Geez...

[edz]

5:12 LOL! Haven't we all had those moments: oh shit...

[lysnamarzani]

Cool. I put a tiny drop of silicone to lubricate the hog ring to make it less sticky. Or, use a 1" long impact extension with ball detent...this will cause some torque loss, but might be worth the trade-off in some cases.

[MrODOG]

If you pull the socket while engaging the motor the hammering vibrations will help it release.

[michael]

thank you for explaining the differance

[frozenprakash]

Thanks man, i was wondering about the difference between Detent vs Ring,
i love Detent, i'll go with it ;)

[Ottonic]

I have never used an impact wrench. Today I bought a new one and It is a friction anvil. Anyway, I replaced the radiator in my car today but didn't use my impact because I didn't know you had to push so hard to get the socket on the new tool and I thought it was a defect so I gave up. Had no Idea they are that hard at first. I am going right now to see if I can get a socket on. Thanks!

[Mrchevyvan]

being older and a tad weaker i cheat by positioning my thumb on the nose of the tool and it helps to apply pressure to pop off the socket. some sockets have a hole that a small screw driver fits to give leverage to pop socket off.