How Christians Try To Answer The Bible’s Contradictions

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(9 mins) Why did God command the OT killing of women and children?

(5 mins from timestamp) Is God Immoral Because of the Atrocities Committed in the Old Testament?

Timestamps
0:00 Contradictions in the Bible
0:34 These 3 things could falsify Christianity
0:52 The analogy that proves God perfect
1:36 Common comebacks to this analogy
1:56 Proof that Christians didn't invent this
2:46 This argument in one sentence
3:56 Proving the haters wrong
5:04 Proof that God exists
5:31 This is what true wisdom looks like.

#jesus #bible #apologetics #atheist #atheism #oldtestament #biblestudy #bibleverse #gospel #christian #christianity

[branchcovidian]

"Kill" and "Murder" are two different words with two different meanings.

I have to edit this post for some very short-sighted people.
*Unless you:*
1. Eat live animals and/or plants and can somehow digest them without killing them - YOU KILL.
or
2. Drive your car and can avoid smashing bugs on your windscreen - YOU KILL.
Are those murder? you tell us, please.

[landonhoward]

Romans 14:20 [NLT] says, "Don't tear apart the work of god over what you eat. Rembert, all foods are acceptable, but it is wrong to eat something if it makes another person stumble.

[lionnelskywalker]

execution and murder are two different things.

[jojo_manolo]

With understanding of the Bible we won’t have any contradictions
Edit: keyword WE won’t have any contradictions

[ancientwisdom-tynb]

God executes justice however God chooses. God gave the reasons for the"genocide" and said clearly that if the Jews did the same things those nations did, they too will face same just and it did happen. So let God be God. With God there is no murder. because murder is only possible when death from earth means finality. if you command earth and life after earth, then murder is no longer murder. Hopefully the wise understand.

[robertbinder]

Wow. Even in elementary school I knew the difference between killing in combat and murdering in cold blood.

[KaiserNightcoreMusic]

What skeptics fail to understand is, life and death to God is simple as a blink of an eye, he gives life and if he choses to take it, he does it.

Everything is his property and he has all the rights in doing so. People are just mad because their hearts are rebellious, which refuses to accept they have no control of anything (Satan was like that too).

Our rebellious heart believes we are entitled to everything good since our birth, while at the same time each individual existence is nothing compared to the macrocosm of creation. that is something few wants to admit it.

The killings in the Old testament by Israel was God's command which is way different than people that murder someone for their own benefit.

[strawberrypancakes]

I can't believe people actually believe in these fairytales. I used to be blind and dumb. But I stopped that when I was 8.

[francissweeney]

The Commandment against killing is actually do not murder. When God tells you to destroy that can not be murder.

[jozitro]

Psalm 9:16🔥
Psalm 10:15🔥

I dedicate these psalms to the elite.

[nezzr]

Leviticus 26:27-29

"27‘Yet, if in spite of this you do not obey Me, but walk in hostility against Me, 28then I will walk in wrathful hostility against you, and I, even I, will discipline you seven times for your sins. 29Further, you will eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters you will eat."

Context punishment.

Deuteronomy 28:53-57
"53Then you shall eat the offspring of your own body, the flesh of your sons and of your daughters whom Yahweh your God has given you, during the siege and the distress by which your enemy will oppress you. 54The man who is refined and very delicate among you shall be hostile toward his brother and toward the wife he cherishes and toward the rest of his children who remain, 55so that he will not give even one of them any of the flesh of his children which he will eat, since he has nothing else remaining, during the siege and the distress by which your enemy will oppress you in all your gates. 56The refined and delicate woman among you, who would not venture to set the sole of her foot on the ground for delicateness and refinement, shall be hostile toward the husband she cherishes and toward her son and daughter, 57and toward her afterbirth which issues from between her legs and toward her children whom she bears; for she will eat them secretly for lack of anything else, during the siege and the distress by which your enemy will oppress you in your gates."

Context punishment.

Isaiah 49:26
"26“I will feed those who mistreat you with their own flesh,
And they will become drunk with their own blood as with sweet wine;"

Context enemy nations.

Ezekiel 5:9-10
"9And I will do among you what I have not done and the like of which I will never do again because of all your abominations. 10Therefore, fathers will eat their sons among you, and sons will eat their fathers; for I will execute judgments on you and scatter all your remnant to every wind."

Context punishment.

Jeremiah 19:7-9
"7I will empty out the counsel of Judah and Jerusalem to the point of destruction in this place, and I will cause them to fall by the sword before their enemies and by the hand of those who seek their life; and I will give over their carcasses as food for the birds of the sky and the beasts of the earth. 8I will also make this city an object of horror and of hissing; everyone who passes by it will be horrified and hiss because of all its slaughtering. 9I will make them eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they will eat one another’s flesh in the siege and in the distress with which their enemies and those who seek their life will distress them.”"

Another round of punishment.

Isaiah 19:19-20
"19By the fury of Yahweh of hosts the land is burned up,
And the people are like fuel for the fire;
No man spares his brother.
20 They slice off what is on the right hand but still are hungry,
And they eat what is on the left hand but they are not satisfied;
Each of them eats the flesh of his own arm."

Context anger against Israel.

Lamentations 4:10
"10The hands of compassionate women
Boiled their own children;
They became food for them
Because of the destruction of the daughter of my people."

Another round of wrath here.

2 Kings 6:28-29
"28And the king said to her, “What is the matter with you?” And she said, “This woman said to me, ‘Give your son that we may eat him today, and we will eat my son tomorrow.’ 29So we boiled my son and ate him; and I said to her on the next day, ‘Give your son, that we may eat him’; but she has hidden her son.”"

Context siege.

[AloisTrancy]

christians in the comments defending murder is crazy

[scratcho.]

This is all just Divine Command Theory which has a serious problem. The theory basically states that if God demands something but then later demands the exact opposite then God is still the source of objective morality because the demand itself isn't objective; the fact that the demand was from God is what makes it objective. (And so every demand from God is dependent on it's own unique specific context.) This logically holds water and I see Christians using this theory to explain away all the blatant contradictions that are within the Holy Bible. However, I have not meet a Christian yet who acknowledges all the new problems that naturally follow if Divine Command Theory is actually how morality functions.

For example, when any one of us are faced with a moral dilemma we would not be able to know with certainty that any choice we make was the best/correct choice unless God himself demanded we do it or said we choose correctly. The problem with this arises when you realize that none of us are able to even reliably communicate with God at all. Sure, there is prayer; however, there is simply no way to distinguish any message or sign from God from intuition, coincidence, or your own inner thoughts and dialogue. Or even worse, you could become victim to a demon's demands instead of God's if you are unfortunate enough to get deceived. So, what's the Bible's solution to this problem? The answer is God's nature supposedly never changes, and so, you must weigh every moral decision in according to God's loving nature. Unfortunately, God's loving nature can lead you to genocide entire people groups, bash infants against rocks, steal the foreskins of enemy soldiers, or even trap yourself in an abusive marriage with no hope of divorce without sinning. [Deuteronomy 20:16-17 (ESV), Psalm 137:9 (ESV), 1 Samuel 18:27 (ESV), Mark 10:1-12 (ESV).]
Well Christians great job, you have just created a moral system that justifies absolutely any action you could possibly do as long as you have your Father in Heaven giving you the thumbs up.

My point is: Without a consistent and reliable way to know what God is wanting us to do then Divine Command Theory is practically no different than subjective morality. Sure, logically this system of morality holds up which is awesome for Christians but actually using this form of objective morality correctly in everyday life is impossible unless you were Jesus himself. Even if you somehow managed to do everything Jesus would have done or wanted you to do then you would have no way of knowing how right you were until you were judged by God himself. So, for all extensive purposes you are living a life of subjective morality while just having faith that what you're doing is apart of God's objective morality.

So don't you see, @LightoftheWorldYT, this morality argument functionally serves no purpose except to excuse blatant contradictions that are in the Bible and to that it succeeds. It's no different than a parent telling you not to lie because lying is bad but then one day they tell you it's okay to lie about your age at some restaurant so they can get a kid discount on your meal except the parent isn't visible to everyone and to a lot of people the parent just comes across as an imaginary friend. Divine Command Theory is just an argument from authority except enhanced with an unfalsifiable and supernatural twist because we aren't able to confirm that the authority even exists. And even if a God does exist who is to say yours is the correct one to follow when there are millions of other Gods?


IMPORTANT FYI, I don't know if you knew you were lying when you said atheists can't have objective morality but you were. Utilitarianism is potentially an objective morality that atheists can subscribe to because it's based on Math which is objective yet isn't a God. If every living thing everywhere were to suddenly stop existing, 1 would still equal 1. And so, combine math with the philosophy of Humanism (which just states humans want favorable things to happen to them and unfavorable things to not happen to them which is objectively true by definition of the word favorable), and you get Utilitarianism- Always choose the moral option that is favorable for the most people while also causing the least unfavorable things for the least amount of people. The morality of Divine Command Theory Vs. the morality of Utilitarianism is like the morality version of a monarchy Vs. a democracy and I guess if you prefer the former then we'll have to agree to disagree until this King of yours actually shows himself but, you know, it's been over 2000 years and we're all still waiting. Plus, my proposed objective morality doesn't send you to eternal Hell for getting it wrong so that's a bonus. (I don't actually subscribe personally to Utilitarianism; however, that doesn't change the fact that it is a perspective that exists.)

[arcaneraccoonart]

Love the video, mate! Could you please tell me what's that song playing in the outro. I can't find it for the life of me :D Shazam and google aren't picking it up unfortunately :(

[SeleverEnjoyer]

4:42 which is blind/ignorant faith, which needs the rest of the scriptures to not be ignorant, even though that seemed like a poor decision, it probably wasn't, but we first would need to prove of God's wisdom, which IS in the bible (aka, giving the benefit of the doubt).

[ThisDonut]

You want to consider context? This reduces gods objectively good commands to be nothing more than personal subjective judgements about right and wrong.

[danieljust]

Let’s ask first simple question. Should criminals be judged and sentenced to prison ? Or should we let everyone live as they want? Should we delegalize justice system?

[miniaturejayhawk]

"The bible says slavery is ok but no true christian today believes that slavery is ok"

Ok, but thats not a contradiction in the scripture. Thats just an arbitrary standard that the churches and their followers made up. Not only that bit the bible is meant to be a timeless document so it really doesnt matter if its followers do or do not want to do things considered ok by it.

Not only that but forced labor has always been a thing and will always be a thing. The issue is that when people in the west say slavery they immediately think of the american civil war when there is more than just one form of forced labor. It also doesnt help that the type of slavery in the southern states was particularly brutal since american slaves werent held as war prisoners or personal servants who could buy their own freedom, like in rome or arabia, but instead as mindless cattle.

[JimtheCODpro]

Most contradictions are either misunderstandings or the Law being fulfilled

[Cyrius]

Thanks for the video, mate! It came out exactly when I needed it