A $3000 Garmin and a $350 COROS walk into a bar...

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0:00 Ray’s Big Move
8:20 Insta 360 Ace Pro 2 and Sponsored Video Mess
28:00 Polar Vantage M3
33:55 COROS Pace Pro
47:18 Holiday Sales?
50:38 Garmin Marq Damascus Steel (Gen 2)
55:00 TrainingPeaks / IndieVelo Acquisition
1:11:29 What’s Next?

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[michaellanger]

Great show…..Always fun to listen to you guys.

[MattSwain]

Not at all jealous of Ray’s new home… swim, bike, run outdoors practically just about every day, sounds awful. Who am I kidding? Insanely jealous, congrats Ray 😊

[crazyhei]

greate viedo ~~Please give some advise on choose pace pro, race s or m3 for running and whole day wearing .
I have own vertix 2, but i think it is too heavy for running .
i want o buy one onwatch on runnng .
When i hiking using vertix 2
THX ~

[WayeOfLife]

So true about the ecosystem.. I just switched from GoPro to DJI.. love the switch. For me the workflow is so much faster.. and as much as I have loved GoPro for years, I use the action camera everyday.. and the reality is that 6months of the year I am usually plogging in the dark.

[beats]

Thanks to both of you. Always very informative. I just purchased an 'Enduro 3' to replace my battery ‘draining’ Fenix 6. Would you be willing and in a postion to assist? My ‘Enduro 3’ does not easily sync via my Wi-Fi connection. Several tries are required and once it does, I receive the message ‘Transfer Complete, 12 Files Failed’. This is in stark contrast to my ‘Fenix 6’ which synced whilst I was still approaching my apartment way down in the stairwell. Also, I would like to disable ‘Sleep Mode’ completely, rather than having to push a button combination to do so. The watch is a bit of a disappointment in these regards and I am contemplating my options, including returning to a 'Fenix 6’. Thanking you in advance.

[wgthn]

December 3rd for the new wahoo! I’m excited

[LeeBoris]

At this point, I don't trust most YouTube reviews, except from a select few from established reviewers I have been watching for years. Most of them are paid, or at very least, just a quick glimpse of some hot new product they are hoping to cash in on.

[Thatsmantas]

In the UK - Epix Gen 2 starts at £325, while the Pace Pro costs £349

[James-qug]

Thanks for the podcast. Did I miss where you both gave your take on the amazfit t rex 3?

[lhzsdgsfbvv]

ForeRunner will have the Flashlight for the x75 generation

[bonn]

Have this loaded for when at work today

[veselinminyov]

What are your go-to watches (rings/whoop strap) that you personally use when not testing other watches and why?

[nickhalluk]

Do you think the Edge 1050 will have Black Friday sales?

[puppet-head]

Epix gen 2 seems to always be on sale, they must have made loads of them. Also my first smart watch of any kind.

[Yarus]

Ray - any update on the Wahoo KICKR RUN treadmill full review?

[trailtillyoudrop]

Hey, I Got the Marq gen 2 athlete a few weeks ago as a gift. And based on what I see I would swap it right away for the Coros Pace Pro without a blink of an eye. I really don't get the fuss about the garmin epix gen 2 interface where this is actually a variant on. Ok yes the screen is nice I give them that. BUT! the heartrate is not any better then my vertix 2 watch which was very clear on a lactate measurement. The screen is smaller so not really handy when you are on a trail and have to look for small side trails on the go. And then I don't get what Garmin does wrong with the Wifi and bluetooth but forget about the frequency on heartrate measurement during the day which should gain a lot of battery life on Coros as you claim. Don't turn of your wifi and or bluethooth and the battery is death in a few days. Why is that and more impotantly why is it not the case on a Coros? Not saying that the coros is better overall because that would not be true but it's the same function here why does it drain the battery so much on a Garmin?
One more frustration is the terrible menu sections on Garmin these days, wanted to change the data during an activity and it's rather facinating how good you can hide a simple function like that. Same for Spotify, yes you can install it but it just doesn't work at all so you might aswell just keep your phone with you so you can at least still take a picture on the go.

[mmh]

The Fenix E getting the new UI and likely new features in the future but not the Epix or the Epix Pro, which is more capable than the E, is going to get a lot of loyal customers mad.

I get why they do it but it feels like a money grab. Usually Garmin offers more than just a repackaged new release.

Anyway, always fun to listen to you guys!

[mart.n]

You have to make a review of Huawei GT5. I think it's a very solid watch.

[peterz]

With Insta360 also based in China, why would they not be subject to similar product bans as DJI?

[chriscarpunky]

Regarding the Marq with no new ecg, heart rate sensor, etc. even if you have money to burn most that have money save their money and for a watch that is 3000 that will make it maybe three years would be $1, 000 per year to own. That’s a waste of money when you have lower priced Garmins that have better and more features.