MAXIMISE ECHO GAINS! Substat & Leveling Optimization | Wuthering Waves!

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WUWA ECHOES MIN MAX!

Credits & Special Thanks:
Gameplay Information - Prydwen
Damage Calculator - Low Priority & Kyoko
SubStat Ranges - @SweetilyVT
Tacet Field Data Collection - @fattyflip4168 & Dolicon

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Content
0:00 Overview
0:27 Echoes Leveling
1:17 Is +25 Worth It?
3:27 Time Taken For 1 Echo Set
3:51 Best Echo SubStats
4:37 How To Best Reroll SubStats
5:49 Min Max Probability

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[axylum]

This guide is incredibly useful for anyone who wants to make the most of their echo exp. Keeping note of this for future reference and also sharing with my friends. Will definitely use this to make my favourite characters as fun as possible. More people need to know about this guide!!!

[ironclad-mq]

Lately, the game has been messing with me by giving DEF or HP in the last two slots after good roll in the first three.

[myst]

I love these type of vids with statistics, thankyou.

[Devil-sama...]

I'm currently UL 46 and here are a few tips for you guys :-

Try to get at least one crit sub-stat on each of your echoes. You can be picky with the 4 cost and 1 cost echoes (because they're abundant on the map) by only leveling them up to +5 until you get a crit sub stat. If it doesn't roll to crit you can simply move on and feed it to the next one. You can be more picky trying to fish 2 crit sub-stats in the first two rolls but it's not advised coz I've done it myself (a lot) and wasted way too much exp and tuners (it was not worth it). You can min-max later in the game but for now at least get one crit sub-stat on each and every echo. You should not be picky with the 3 cost echoes (elemental damage ones) because they're really hard to get. So try leveling them up to +15 and see if you get crit or not. If no crit then move to the next one until you get at least one crit sub-stat.

Now what about leveling them to +25?
If you love the character then yes go for it. The damage increase is significant. My Yinlin destroyed Mourning Aix diff 6 once I leveled up all her artifacts to +25.
You can ignore the rejuvenating set for Verina. No need to level it up as mentioned in the video. If you're using atk weapon then you can level up 3 cost echoes for her (Energy recharge ones) up to +10-15. But if you're using variation then no need.

I hope this helps. Comment if you have something to ask or any queries.

[OnlySinusodial]

Great guide! posting to please the algorithm gods :)

[anythingbro]

I waste alot echo exp in early, from my experience to share is if the second row(lv10) could not roll crit or crit dmg can change other piece,
even 3rd roll you get crit or crit dmg, the following 4th 5th roll usually wont come with crit or crit dmg, (very low chance unless you believe miracle)
and need to mention that if you get the lowest crit & crit dmg with others hp def is useless piece tho,
advise new players do not too picky just start it with any crit/crit dmg with atk% to lv25,
spend stamina on material maximize all skill lv would better than gamble the stats..
hope this helps

[parania]

Great vid as always. Just need a clarification: 6:45 you are saying it is good to go for +10 as you have about 10% chance to hit a roll? Isn't the % on the right most column assumes a complete roll to +25 and therefore, cumulative %? I.e. you have 10% chance to hit crit rate + crit damage in your remaining 4 substat rolls. How can that help in deciding WHEN to stop? If my interpretation of the last column is right, you should look into the probability of hitting crit rate or dmg in the NEXT roll vs. Exp/tuners invested.

[sakakisalahdenakaja]

bro farming echos with element u want is so pain event tacet field gives bad ones def hp atk .i hope it becomes less grindy at least for elements

[SM-tfli]

The reason I haven't pushed mid echos to lvl25 is not just because of echo exp. It's because using 10 or 20 more tuners on a piece that will be recycled feels like a waste with the 30% tuner refund rate.

[berloga]

Bruh, purple tuners can be converted into yellow ones later

[gachacaspa]

Guys your crit rate stat is more important than crit damage initially. Whats the point in echoes with onlu crit damage line if u have no crit rate? Id be aiming for those mid gear pieces that are good provide plenty dps but obviously not omg amazing. Not looking at figures but if u got crit rate and atck percentage thats legit a good piece for how far u are in game.

[ixirion]

going from 20 to 25 if not at least 2 good rolls is still a huge exp lost early game.

[imonutiy]

Nice vid. I think going 25 is only worth on pieces you that hit at least 3 good stats for character. I did this on main team average echoes, because didn't fully understand the system, around UL 30 when I hit databank 18, which was a big mistake and waste of resources. Because ultimately you gonna need to make 3 (2?) teams at least for tower and good mix of elements to choose from for different resistant mobs and I would rather spend waveplates and astrite to get resonators to 60-70 and lvl weapons + skills, rather then wasting it on on tacet fields. Yes you get fast echoes from it which is a good part but still you can farm those for free after DB 18, and you get some free ones while progressing.
PS. Taoqi is the best starter core caz she eats DEF stats crit and crit damage, gets free 4 start weapon, and generally ez to pull early.

[kentmarquez]

I wish I heard this earlier. and If I understood the video it's optimal to just go for +10 and recycle

[Vain]

any encore mains? (on echoes) does the resonance liberation substat benefit encore's ult?

I mean when she ults, all her attacks will be counted as basic attacks...

[raresradoi]

My problem with recycling echoes is that realistically there are high chances you lose more than 25% exp. Lets say you level an echo to +10 and get crit rate and crit damage, then you commit and dump a +25 with bad rolls into it, you may end up getting only bad rolls on the last substats so then you'll need to build another echo. But still, 75% is a generous number so its not that bad

[jasonj]

first of all, why can't we sacrifice echoes to upgrade other echoes? example, the useless 1 cost or 3 cost we are hoarding should be used to upgrade the 4 cost echoes and vise versa.

[gaiuspadme]

pls help me on which is better:

set 1:
HP: 15043
ATK: 1588
DEF: 921
Energy Regen:142%
Crit rate: 75.5%
Drit Damage: 240.2%

set 2
HP: 15205
ATK: 1588
DEF: 921
Energy Regen:139.6%
Crit rate: 97.5%
Drit Damage: 181.2%

set 3
HP: 14613
ATK: 1523
DEF: 1076
Energy Regen:130.4%
Crit rate: 105.6%
Drit Damage: 181.2%

[RoniStudio]

Is it possible to not get HP and Def in this game? 😂

[Kinger_of_the_circus]

I go all on stats 😂 and hope for the best