Michael Shermer Reflects on the Trump Assassination Attempt

The Michael Shermer Show # 448

The Donald Trump assassination attempt, conspiracies, JFK, Lincoln, Roosevelt, Reagan, and more.

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[BeammeupSpotty]

Thanks for sharing. I always enjoy hearing your rational approach.

[Riffraffgames]

@14:20 start of discussion about the Trump Assassination Attempt

[PremjitTalwar]

Love the logical and detailed presentation.

[a]

Quite a good summary of the lone skeptic theory of presidential shooter conspiracies. One should always be skeptical when attributing to incompetence what might be better explained by malice.

[NorskInjustis]

avoiding wrong theories is important, but saying nothing to see here is too early to say. Skepticism has its limits.

[michaeljames]

As soon as I saw the theories emerging, I imediately though of Shermer. Thanks for the expertise Mike

[Spirit]

Always enjoy these videos of just you speaking, wish you made more. Keep it up!

[TomVincent-JFK]

Thank you Michael Shermer. The voice of sanity.
There is so much incompetence in the world, we see it everywhere. JFK himself said of the Navy high brass when he served during WWII that there was much incompetence, as it seems there was a few days ago by the secret service and police, and even all the way back to JFK's assassination. Why the secret service driver didn't speed up or swerve after the throat shot has always seemed a glaring example of incompetence. There was a full 5 seconds to step on the gas and get out of there, but nothing of the sort happened. Better training is still needed it seems, and better people. With four assassinations and nine assassination attempts on Presidents or former Presidents running for office again, adding RFK running for President as a Senator, (that's 13 shootings against 46 Presidents, which comes out to about 1 out of 3.5 of our Presidents, or Presidential hopefuls have been targets) it unfortunately is almost a common occurrence.

[simonrae]

Banality is the enemy of conspiracy theorists

[homewall]

Why can't they release the JFK records yet? Same for RFK?

[mikeb]

This was obviously an inside job. Secret service ordered no one on the roof and water tower, right before the shooting, secret service told local PD to take lunch. Shooter was spotted by Snipers with a rangefinder and backpack, no one confronted him or warned Trumps team. Theres also footage that shows someone on the wayer tower, they then hid behind it after the first shots then re-emerge. Secret Service director already caught lying saying the building was outside the perimeter and that local PD was in charge of it(which they denied). Then she claimed they had 3 snipers inside the building and not on the roof due to safety concerns, even though snipers were on a slopier roof behind Trump. Now SS director is being told dont give interviews.

[richardmanoogian]

As always, you are clear and rational .
My sense is that there are probably potential lone wolf actors lurking around large political events. They either don’t perceive or can’t exploit vulnerabilities in security.
In this case, a combination of incompetence and/or overconfidence on the part of the secret service afforded this guy an opportunity to. The lack of personnel on the roof and the presence of a ladder were inviting.

[eatfrenchtoast]

But was that crooks in the Black Rock promo video or not?

[robinhood]

It tells you all you need to need to know about today's politics that these people are fans of a presidential candidate. I mean not not supporters fans

[hrmIwonder]

While it probably is incompetence, theres enough that stinks that questions need to be asked and answered.

[cletusjones]

Everything is always just as it appears.

[bryanpersaud]

I was literally waiting for this guy to throw in his 2 cents and tell everyone they are seeing things, eye witnesses are unreliable, even question the veracity of experts. He is the go to guy for the establishment.

[evanstein]

40:39 I want to note something here that you said that I've heard from Posner previously and bothers me because I think it's deceptive. The Marine Corps has three levels of marksmanship qualification: marksman, sharpshooter, expert. I don't know the entire statistical breakdown, but when I was in, more than half the guys I knew had sharpshooter or expert. Point being, sharpshooter in the Marine Corps does not have the import you and Posner imply. It would be akin to saying, "Of course Einstein was a genius from an early age; he got a B in science class!" I had sharpshooter or expert my entire time in the Marines and I wasn't even in a combat field. That's not a brag -- it's just not that remarkable to get the mid-level qualification. I'm sure Posner must have been told this.

[BitcoinMotorist]

RFK also spoke at PorcFest and he had a similar setup then. Metal detecters going into the Pavilion. All doors in and out of the Pavilion were behind a secure perimeter. I am not exactly sure where RFK entered and exited from, I am assuming it was the rear somewhere. RFK has an elite private security firm protecting him.

[benmeltzer]

"[If] they assigned a team this incompetent to Trump, that itself is malice."–Auron MacIntyre