A tech company you can actually like!

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Tech companies are often seen as either big and evil or nice, but small. Proton proves there is another way.

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[You_are_wrong]

Just remember, never simp for a company. The ''evil'' company we know was good until they become too big.

[dhillaz]

Craigslist is my 'good company' - 250 million monthly visits, $500m+ revenue, and just 50 employees. Simple, user friendly and stable since 1995

[drdonut]

About the French activist: He used the normal webpage for the email, which is why Proton had to give his IP address to the authorities. Proton does operate a TOR service, where you can access your email without your IP address being exposed, so if he would have used that, the authorities would be left empty-handed.

Furthermore, Proton's yearly transparency report does state how many government requests they received, how many they contested, and how many they ultimately complied with. You cannot operate a company in a western country without abiding the law, but I think in this regard, Proton is as good as it gets.

[Stilllife]

As a proton user, I'm not a fan of proton marketing

[mx]

ProtonMail does also work with other encrypted mail services which use PGP or where the user themselves sets up PGP, so this isn't a closed eco-system.

[DjSapsan]

As a proton user I confirm this - it allows to run all Steam games with 1 click

[WURO]

I am not sure why there are so many negative comments here. Of course, we have to see what happens in the future and if Proton stays as ethical as it seems right now, but I am quite excited that there appears to be a company that tries to build a eco-system of so many different useful features in a privacy focused way. We can always complain when it goes the wrong way and discontinue using it but for now let´s cheer it up and support it!

[Desalnietteminimaal]

If the company turns evil or not, will depend on the businessmodel. If they can realize healthy growth without selling out on their values, we might have an actually 'good' company whose interest arent against the interests of their users.

[Redmentoos]

Proton is proof that companies can be trustworthy, affordable, open-source-based, and still be profitable.

[korakys]

Proton is what Mozilla should have been.

[nikkehtine]

Proton has been surrounded by some controversy, but a channel called "Default" made a pretty good video talking about that. In short - it's 100% fine to use for the privacy aware, you just need to remember that email as a technology wasn't designed with privacy and security in mind and you should use other, more secure forms of communication if it's necessary.

[MauroFire]

For me the most important thing is that Proton is not an American company and this is why I don’t think it will end up like the other giants.

[Ezel_]

I never understood the issue when Proton handed over their users IPs to the authorities being controversial. They initially didn't comply which caused such a huge issue that their government "had to" step in from my understanding. I'd trust them more for that than other companies that would've handed user information to the authorities without any resistance.

[LastSecBloomer]

Let's hope they won't take after Mozilla, which is an absolute mess of a company and will end up ruining the only competitor Chrome has...

[tiagom]

WE NEED PROTON MAPS!! just make OSM but with a good interface so i can ditch Gmaps and make it easy to suggest edits so the community can help it be better!!

[RussellBeattie]

*Consumers don't care about privacy*. Any service that focuses on privacy will never get beyond a niche service. Privacy is a feature that everyone says is important, but when it comes to actually spending money, it's not a priority.

[ThePlayerOfGames]

3:22 Proton's solution in the meantime is you can send an "encrypted mail" to someone that actually sends a link to a note that they need a password to open.
The note is email-formatted and doesn't leave their servers, so if you send the password via something like Signal then Google/Microsoft/Yahoo etc can't read your private emails to non-Proton users

[MrChubib]

Remember when google has this motto (Don't be evil)

[fuseteam]

I feel like we don't just need a good ecosystem from a company, we need a good ecosystem of companies.

Like why not build proton mail support directly into thunderbird?

Why not interoperate with other encrypted mail service providers?

[Soguwe]

I wonder how long it takes for this video to age like milk
My guess is 5 years