Guilt by Association isn't an Argument for God (feat Dr Bart Ehrman) #religion #proof #christianity

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[daviydviljoen]

The problem with Craig is that he makes ad hominems his professional carrier...

[Andrew_Sword]

WLC makes it seem like it should be easy to refute Hume, so easy infact he forgets to refute Hume because hes to busy talking about how easy it is to refute Hume.

[Julian]

WLC: Bart herman is using a warm over version of david hume's argument from the 18th century.
Also WLC: My best argument is a warm over version of kalam's argument from the 9th century.

[stevewebber]

Strange to hear an apologist like WLC complaining about being presented a warmed over old argument.
The projection is off the charts.

[petercoo]

The only real problem with WLC is that anybody, anywhere, pays him any attention. He can't even get started on making an argument for his case, because the only way he has to deal with objections to his proposition is to completely ignore them.

[nrellis]

So WLC's point is basically that someone raised an objection to his dogma that someone else raised before. So why not address the objection rather than say 'that's not original so it can be dismissed completely'?

[hatuletoh]

If there's even ONE CHANCE IN A MILLION that Billy L. Craig can avoid acknowledging an opponent's substantive argument, you can be assured that's the strategy he will opt for in a debate.

[thomascarroll]

William Lame Craig has worked so hard at being dishonest.

[Truth-Be-Told-USA]

it's completely stupid that a loving powerful God would create all humans guilty by association

[nagranoth_]

Well, because he CAN'T deal honestly with any argument.

[SpaceLordof]

If you’re being compared to David frickin’ Hume, personally, I think you might be on the right track.

[ramigilneas]

The problem for Low Bar Bill is that Hume is 100% correct and that Humes assumtions are the basis for the scientific method, for the historical method and even for our court system.

[Ploskkky]

When I first encountered Craig, I thought he was an honorable, civilized, honest guy. Can you imagine?

[alexanderweddle]

It’s interesting also, because Craig suggests that Ehrman came to a similar conclusion INDEPENDENTLY of Hume, which might suggest that reasonable consideration of the problem might lead isolated people to the same reasonable conclusion. The independent thinking would seem to bolster the argument, rather than weaken it. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[LordPhoenix]

He can't deal with the argument, that's why he's just using an ad hominem and hand waving it away.

[stevewarren]

WLC is terribly dishonest and stuff like this proves it.

[publicutility]

'Equate' vs. 'Conflate'

To equate two things is, in the most common sense of the word, to treat, represent, or regard those things as equal or equivalent.

The "confuse" meaning of conflate is now arguably its most common meaning—although in some cases it can be difficult to tease apart just which meaning is being applied. 
the act or process of combining two or more separate things into one whole, especially pieces of text or ideas: The term "clean coal" is a deliberate and misleading conflation of two very separate technologies. This is a great example of conflation and confusion of sources.

[BluePhoenix_]

Criticising the use of "warmed over" arguments, while building your career on exactly that, is pretty fvcking rich.

[hank_says_things]

WLC criticising anyone for using old, warmed-over arguments is fucking laughable. It's literally Craig's entire career - the difference is that Ehrman has evidence & expertise.

[archapmangcmg]

Why not deal with the argument?
Apologists: *horror!!!* Run away!