Heaven & Hell - Sam Harris vs Jordan Peterson

Heaven & Hell - Sam Harris vs Jordan Peterson

#SamHarris #JordanPeterson #heaven #hell

07/14/2018

This is the third time Sam & Jordan appeared live together on stage. They were joined by Douglas Murray. This event took place at 3Arena in Dublin, Ireland on July 14th 2018 in front of 8500 people. The event was produced by Pangburn Philosophy.

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[frozentspark]

Jordan Peterson beats around the bush more than my landscaper does.

[ivanleon]

Jordan: if i move my fingers all over the place, maybe they can ignore all the word salad i spit.

[psychotropicalresearch]

JP is looking more and more like a messianic religious preacher

[canadian]

Sam Harris is so generous here. He is willing to follow along Peterson’s word salad, deconstruct it, and then give out a simple and clear comment which makes Peterson look good. I’m not that patient, my mind tunes out Peterson after he starts his word mumbling.

[yumyum]

JP really fancies himself as the next great religious philosopher. To me he'll be remembered as more like an AI sentence generator

[davidrhodes]

500 words to say what he could say in 50 words. Sometimes Peterson is right, sometimes he’s wrong. But he is the worst debater i have ever seen.

[BarrySometimes]

It's worth noting the significant asymmetry between communication styles.

Sam, on one hand, is softly spoken & gentle in his hand movements.

Jordan, on the other, is the polar opposite. He is loud & sharp in his vocalisations, his posturing nears hyperactive much of the time.

Personally I do not consider Jordan to be charismatic, however I think many people do.

Susan Cain once noted that many people conflate charisma with insight, despite the non-existent correlation between being an entertaining speaker & having good ideas.

I would argue that many of Jordan’s follows are such people.

[rob]

Harris just takes him apart, like he does everyone. The only chance of even looking respectable that Peterson has is a decent vocabulary, and confusing the issue to the point of just wearing everyone out...

[hannotn]

He is such a terrible communicator. Relentlessly tedious and pleonastic. Mind you, he gets paid a fortune for doing what he loves, which is talking in aimless strings of polysyllables and listening to it adoringly.

[ZosoLU]

I don't need magic pixie dust to believe in reducing harm.

[himmura]

Am I the only one who has a hard time understanding Jordan Peterson? He’s going on tangents right? Takes so damn long to make a point.

[gullibleskeptic]

Jordan Peterson can speak an infinite amount of words and say absolutely nothing at all..

[MisterLumpkin]

Hey Jordan, Willie Wonka wants his jacket back.

[rockpadstudios]

Peterson's pivot to religion is just sad. He has really gone downhill in the last few years. Typical person afraid of death so turns to wishful thinking. For him to believe in hell is just sad.

[ReallyFarFarAway]

Jordan Peterson again and again and again and ... etc ..
👉 BORING 👈

[antonewilson]

I must say, Jordy, watching you devolve into self-destructive self-parody is as rewarding as watching Carlo Rizzi get his due from Peter Clemenza hiding in the back seat.

[pcdonahue]

5:04 someone farts.

Sorry—at 4 minutes past 5 o’clock on the YouTube timeline of this video, the gaseous substrate emitting from one particular speaker can be heard both metaphorically AND audiotorically …

[eyebrid]

Peterson takes 5 minutes of redundant statements to say he believes people's behavior is influenced by unseen attractors at the extremes of good and bad like it isn't just more synonyms for religious dogma that we've already heard.

[sledzeppelin]

Jordan is wrong. There are more states. There's the desirable state, then there's the state that brings us to the desirable state, then there's the state that brings us to the the state that brings us to the desirable state, and then there's the state that brings us to the state that brings us to the state that brings us to the desirable state, and then there's the

[theamalgamut]

5:40 minutes of argumentation destroyed in 20 seconds.