The State of Tesla FSD (Mid-2024)

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[jmorgan]

Hey, that was my Silver Model 3 at 3:30...yes RIP, was totalled when rear-ended by the the guy behind us who must have forgotten his Nissan van didn't have any driver assist features.

[sccjacob]

The way it handles the do not block intersection sign and the drive thru is crazy

[MartianGopnik]

8:24 to 8:34 looks more like collision avoidance than "aggression" to me. While borderline blowing through a yellow doing 46 in a 35, a car pulls out in front and it's like "uh-oh, speed differential." Then the other car speeds up and you see the path planner go "oh, okay."

[skillfulfighter]

One of the side effects of using ML based algorithms is that seemingly insignificant variations in conditions (of which there are plenty while driving) might result in different behavior. This would look like inconsistency to a driver. It's why it's so important to get enough randomized training data to erase these conditions.

In other words, I think this inconsistency you're noticing is due to their stated lack of training on normal driving.

[Mrbfgray]

Missed your vids, my fave and only source I really need to feel up to date.

[georgepelton]

What a great summary of how FSD is working today.  I have 12.3.6 on my daily driver, and 12.4.3 on my other Tesla. AI DRIVR sums up my experience much better than I ever could.

AI DRIVR's video overlay of FSD graphics with view out the windshield is by far my favorite format to watch FSD, and his commentary is absolutely top notch.

[AWE]

Never been so early. Was waiting for this video for daaays 🔥

[driftedsun]

I think it’s also worth mentioning the recent revelation that Tesla’s been manually tracking and updating areas where influencers drive to skew what audiences are seeing

[enigmatum]

ChatGPT hallucinations are not fixed by more data but by stacking different models. Like chain of thought, RAG, even calling up python codes. Hallucination is a feature of these algorithms not a bug to iron out. It’s inherent to the math functions.

More advanced models can fix it, but those models are slow. FSD can’t sit and wait for answers.

[puregero]

I like that you decided to talk about each version in the video, rather than skip the intermittent versions because a new version came out

[EwanM]

Most if the driving people do is local. When we drive in unfamiliar areas we make loads of mistakes, driving in the wrong lane for a turn off, missing turn offs, pissing off locals... FSD has to drive like this all the time. I see loads of testers say things like, its slowing down too aggressively, its approaching the stop sign too slowly, its stopping too far back, its not pulling into the lane quickly enough to.make the next turn, etc. This is probably all down to the tester knowing the local traffic behaviour. It will be a while before Tesla start including local data for their drives. Until then, drivers will be critical. Passengers probably won't care though, so we need to jump to the part where supervision is not needed and Passengers don't notice if the car misses a turn or other triviality.

[bsaxman]

I've experienced extremely hard braking on v12.3.6 when approaching an intersection and the traffic signal changes to yellow. Extremely hard braking. I was lucky no one was behind me because I would have experienced a rear-end collision and/or a pissed off driver behind me. I've seen others report this as well. From a technical perspective, FSD may be correct in stopping however hard is necessary when approaching an intersection with a yellow light, but it should also take into account the g-force that would result if it decides to come to a stop instead of continuing on thru the intersection. I hope v12.5 fixes this issue.

[TromboneAl]

Thanks for another great vid. I think sometimes you are giving it undue credit for thinking. For example, at 4:41, it's simply not turning left because the light is green and it doesn't have right of way. I also don't think it understands about in-n-out waiters taking orders. It's just hesitant to move in case the pedestrian is going to walk into the road.

[aptwo]

Woah the behavior at the drive through was impressive

[iowa_don]

I’m on 12.3.6 and the other day it completely blew a normal left hand turn that other versions have never had trouble with. The car went WAY wide and was headed off of the road so I had to take control. Pretty freaky.

[ajudgementalcat]

Always enjoy your posts. Glad to see you working on it!

[peterkn]

1:40 this is one of the most annoying thing my car does nowadays. I hate cutting in line but it often waits until last minute to do the lane changes even though there was good times to make the change earlier.
2:20 the unusual lane changes also bothers me too.
my 12.4.3 does both of these still

[shadowwsk]

Do you think Tesla has specially trained their self-driving model to the area you are testing this in?

[bullbagaren]

Whats your take on Tesla specifically developing FSD for influencers? Using footage from creators videos to enhance your specific driving experience?

[mikeyc]

I've now been driving 12.4.3 a lot and you sum it up well. It's mostly OK but there are times that make you scratch your head and say "WTF... REALLY?" For me overall, 12.4.3 is worse than 12.3.6. 12.4.3 hesitates way too much turning from one road onto another and the auto speed control is TERRIBLE now. Most of the time it'll go way under the speed limit and you have to remind it to go faster with the accelerator and THEN it'll maintain the speed limit. Then in other sections, the speed limit goes from 60 to 45 and it'll just keep driving 65. Looking forward to 12.5 as this is 1 step forward, 2 steps back.