Learn How To Land HIGH WING RC Planes (E-flite Turbo Timber Landing Tutorial)

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0:00 Introduction \ Preflight
1:48 Takeoff \ Two Point Landing Section
2:45 Don't Do This
3:55 Three Point Landing Section
6:56 Crow Landing Section
8:33 More Three Point Landing Info \ Why I Prefer Three Point
11:24 Landing \ Post-flight
12:13 Preflight
12:40 Hand Launch
13:40 Turbulent Slow Flight
14:38 Flat Turn Attempt w/ Full Flaps
15:22 Inverted Low Pass
15:55 Perfect Hammerhead \ Not-so-perfect Hammerhead \ Tumbling
16:35 Turbulent Touch & Goes
17:40 One-wheel T&G \ High Speed Snap Roll
18:10 Wind Shear \ Turbulent T&G
18:50 Slow Crow Pass \ Inverted Flat Spin
19:48 Bouncy T&Gs
20:33 Landing \ Post-flight
21:32 Torque Rolling
22:17 High Alpha Knife Edge \ Torque Rolling
23:18 Knife Edge Spin \ Blender \ Knife Edge
23:40 Half Loop \ Half Point Roll \ Tumble \ Snap Flap Flip
24:11 Hammerheads \ Tumble \ Inverted Flat Spins
24:53 Slow Rolling
25:23 Rolling Circles
26:15 Mid-air Grab Attempts
27:00 Landing \ Post-flight

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[FFE-jszp]

Couple of thoughts watching your great video:

One thing I still do, after 21, 000 full scale landings and probably more RC landings, is cheat by mentally connecting my thumbs on final through touchdown. If you find your aileron thumb is primary on final, follow it with your rudder thumb. Ideally, with a primary trainer type aircraft, your rudder thumb would be primary on final to eliminate most adverse yaw induced oscillations. Especially since you like big throws which equal big yaw oscillations.

It’s hard too tell if you use differential aileron, it looks like you don’t, probably to maximize both throw directions. But it could help to mix that in on final. IOWs, you could make the ailerons travel around 2x more up throw then down throw to help keep the longitudinal axis from waggling.

It’s important with a taildragger to have the fuse aligned with the rwy centerline at main gear contact, as the gear is in front of the CG, so any yaw angle present will increase when the gear touches, unlike a tricycle config which naturally reduces yaw angle with main gear friction.

RC planes are usually light enough to stay weather vaned, but a full scale taildragger will ground loop if you touch down with much yaw angle.

With a crosswind, and when using the wing low method, your rudder and aileron thumbs would decouple as you approach the round out to keep the yaw axis from rotating from straight rwy alignment, with aileron defected into the wind to prevent centerline drift. But I think RC it’s usually smarter to land into the headwind as rwys are a little more flexible and wind speeds are crazy magnified.

[FranklinLiu-mqfw]

I really like your video, which is very helpful. There are lots of thing I don't know before.

[FFE-jszp]

It’s great to see young people out there practicing mastery of the physical world, while most are mastering instagram. Nice video. Nice flying. I especially like that you show your mistakes. Flying is always homing in on another lever, and there is always another level. So mistakes are a constant and our only teacher.

The thing I love about RC is you don’t need an instructor if you can dwell with your comfort zone and give yourself cushion when ready to expand it. That leads to all kinds of innovative approaches to flying. And as we see, sometimes the teens who’ve taught themselves are arguably the best. Especially with helis which I can only fly like an airplane.

[crazyaces]

Nice flying Jon....thank's for the info !👍👍

[scaneagle]

BTW, your videos have helped me alot. Probably saved me a ton of money. Binged watched when I found your channel.

[GiovanniBausC]

The more videos I watch of the Timber and the Carbon Cub 1300, the more I‘m convinced I‘ll choose the Funcub NG instead. It‘s slightly more expensive because it’s not made in China, but seems to float better.

[cg]

It really depends on the generation the Timber was made Gen 1 (red) and 2 (blue) have a weakness where the side-mounted screw connects, the thinnest part, breaks/snaps. Also, misaligned and wheel-rubbing gear needs to be fixed before flight this rubbing causes drag which makes the landing gear do the wiggles hard enough to spin the plane or break plastic/Styrofoam. Lastly - pay close attention to the vertical alignment - should be near Pyramid in shape or you have the wire loops where the screws are in the wrong holes. Some people have Top-Down "bounce checked" their Timbers stating it is now stronger than ever (which I am grateful e-Flight has upgraded/fixed) just remember Top-Down force isn't the main issue with older it is forward movement, thus backward force on gear where breaks happen - not much Top-Down with slams - never experienced my plane just drop from the sky. Last part where the wires and springs connect there is a tiny plastic, two screw box shaped holder - some have upgraded this with aluminum while others simply cut and drilled (very easy to do) a new, thicker plastic piece.

[jacobboone]

I noticed with crow you were coming in with quite a bit of throttle! First time I flew with crow the plane was nearly falling out of the air, cool to see yours reacting the same!

[KB_RC]

Nicely done Jon! Recently ended my Timber X’s flying days…😂 I always did three point landings with it and most of the time got it to land within 3-5 inches… sometimes in a little bit of wind I got it to touchdown and not move AT ALL!! I absolutely loved that thing. But now that I have the Extra 300 I think I might get the Turbo Timber Evolution! Basically got the Timber X to start some 3D flying. But yeah I have decided I need another Timber! 1.5m Evolution it is!😂

[old-rcplane-phart]

You GOTTA try reverse in the air!!!! At least a couple of times! (Blast with the ultimate 3d bipe! 😁👍) !!! Just remember to go back to normal b4 its too late!

Works best after a hammer head turn! 😜

[sendit_rc]

Nice Landing Tutorial!
Only issue I'm having with the Timber Evo is the foam tires breaking loose from the plastic rims and then major wobble effect.
I've tried glue but doesn't last.

[hazen]

He talks about EXPO a lot, which is cool but not everyone knows what he is referring too. Here's the explanation:

RC Expo is also known as Exponential, or simply Expo. It reduces the sensitivity near the centre of the stick where fine controls are needed (for Roll, Pitch and Yaw), while retaining the maximum rotation speed at the ends of the stick. Expo is a percentage value. (sniped from google)

[Krash_fpv]

I have literally dropped it from 6 feet up in super windy conditions on my timber x and it just took it....and had a dumb moment and was flying one day and went thru a few packs and put on last pack in and didn't do another preflight and took off with reversed ael and ele....somehow managed to level it and bring her down with the gentle finesse of an elephant falling over and the gear is still solid haven't even had spring issues and I followed tail heavys recommendations and bought like 4 pairs of springs ....probly 40 flights and t or 6 bad bad landings and 2 crashes and she's fine still

[stealthwarrior]

We always have wind & sheer in Colorado!

[ItAintMeBabe]

Very nice! My club field is short grass. My Turbo Timber flips over on EVERY landing, without exception. Any idea why ?

[carsten]

Hello is this Plane better or a Twin Timber for Beginner.I fly a Cessna @2014 three times and i want a new start in this Hobby.Sorry for my bad english.Many Greatings from Germany

[bobd]

Two Brothers - Do you actually have a video on how to split servo wires for crow? What channel did you use for additional Aileron- did you disconnect lights for that channel?

[garryperrin]

I’m using DX9, my TTE has 2 Y harnesses on ailerons and flaps. How is he getting his ailerons to do crow? Oh, i see that you addressed that and i’ll check it out.

[gisall]

GREAT video as usual Jon. BUT, I have to throw my 2 cents in. STEP ONE. Buy a Tundra, or a Grand Tundra instead. As well as the Timbers fly, their Glass Slipper, Tinker-bell landing gear absolutely sucks for a Bush Plane. Every flight has a landing, and the Tundra's have superior Bush Plane landing gear. I love my Timber X, but I finally had to put Grand Tundra landing gear in it. NOW I finally have a complete Bush Plane out of the Timber X. I also have the Tundra V2 which is a fantastic Bush Plane with Real Bush Plane landing gear. The Timber landing gear is way too narrow, and needs to be located 2 or 3 inches more forward of the C/G. Like on the Tundra's

[lokaero]

0:12 The background, Reflection, contrast, smooth camera movement and controlling made it look like a high graphics simulator gameplay. 😅