Independent Trucks Stage 4 Review! Vs. Slappy Trucks & Ace Trucks!

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Bubbytoed

I got the slappy inverted. And I love them! I put some bones extra hard bushings cause I'm heavy. But with those bushings it lowers the truck by a few mill. Which was my only complaint about them, the height of the truck. So yea if anybody wants slappy lows, put some bones in em. Great video btw

TheDylonCarter

I haven't skated Slappy's yet, but I have skated ace af1 and Indy stage 4, and I actually prefer the stage 4s, but I started skating in the 80s and it could just be nostalgia.

ericcrockett

I'm too fat & old to skate, but I'll throw you a view.

redsyn

Not to be a big ol nerd or whatever but the og orange Indy bushings feel way better than the red ones.

clevestinson

I literally can't understand how this shape is disliked and those PIPES we see nowadays are praised. Yet again I'm a 90s kid so...

babyzoomer

Ive had the opposite experience with slappy trucks. Got wheelbite instantly with them, and they absolutely shred bushings, especially the roadside. Didnt matter if i ran cup or flat washers, they still got cut the hell up because of how much the bushings shifted around in the very minimal bushing seat.

Also, while on the topic of bushings, why is it bones or stock bushings for 90% of skaters? Check out riptide bushings.

Ryoubreathingnow

For TKP trucks, Ace AF1s are the best. The company was actually founded by former Indy employee, Joey Tershay after the Indy Stage 9 fiasco(new computer-designed truck geometry) and people started buying all the Indy Stage 4-8s they could get their hands on and now the Ebay price for those trucks is or was around $500/set before the recent Indy Stage 4 reissue. Ace are known for their 'turn-on-a-dime' gemometry, which is just what Indy Stage 9 SHOULD have been, which is why transition riders all favor Ace over Indy, even if they're sponsored by Indy. 😆

theoriginalrabbithole

Id take slappys over ACE anyday. Havent tried the stage 4 yet. Maybe ill get the 10" stage 4s.

ianclements

Good video! I haven’t tried the sage 4 Indy’s yet but skated them back in the day and loved them back then but remember that there is very little kingpin clearance. I see that Pedro Barros is skating the stage 4’s now, so that’s kinda cool! I really liked Ace trucks but bent every set I ever had (like 6 or 7 sets) so I don’t skate them anymore. Been skating Slappy’s for a while now and like them. They do look a lot like Ace trucks but do not skate anything like Ace. Slappy’s have great bushings, turn a lot deeper than most trucks, don’t get wheel-bite, super good kingpin clearance, and they don’t bend lol! When I jump on my decks with Indy’s or Thunders on them, they don’t feel as good as the Slappy’s do. Unfortunately I haven’t tried the Slappy’s on a vert ramp yet as the nearest vert ramp is 3 hours away from me but my local skatepark has a 10’ deep bowl with about a foot of vert and they feel real good in it. Also seeing Mike Frazier and Gavin Liller just killing it on vert with Slappy’s is I pretty good sign that they are a good vert truck lol!

scstinger

I recently switched to Slappy following a few years on Ace and then previously about 25+ years riding Indy. Honestly, the Slappy is the best truck I've skated. Fast, responsive, no kingpin contact (I have the inverted model) but the biggest improvement for me over Ace is no wheel bite. As for Indy, I think they've completely lost their way with all the newer competition. When I look at their truck range now, it's really confusing (Stage 11, Stage 4, Mid...). In my opinion, if they want to win back business they should design a completely new truck

benj

I’m liking the stage 4s I put a inverted kingpin in so it’s great now and I feel like the extra weight helps with the turn I like loose tucks so there ok by me

brienbeltran

i just bought some 169 titaniums and bones med bushings. i love them. stock bushings are always crap. i dont try every truck though

chrhadden

Ill agree with weight for sure. One thing I did notice is I have been on and off my lurpivs to the point where I have a second setup with lupivs on em. But the thing the stage 4 does that the ace cant is turning without wheel bite. I like big ass wheelsand ace is a gift and a curse sometimes because for a second you are good and then boom wheel bite and you are dead stage 4 dont do that. But them shits look wonky

jcheeks

Dude, you hardly turn on your board. Stage 4s are more for transition not going straight and street - transition and carving is where they really shine. The red bushings have a ton of rebound and are way better than AF1 bushings IMO. They have a quicker and deeper turn but are somehow more stable than Ace. I tried Slappy trucks and they just lean like hell - the turn takes an age to engage- more like Stage 11 Indys. I didn't dig them at all. I still love the Ace carve, I feel they're meant to be ridden loose. Right now my transition set ups are running Stage 4s and Ace 77s. Both amazing trucks IMO.

jamesryan