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On The Contrary | Episode 5: What should India learn from disasters?

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KK Shailaja, former health minister of Kerala, and Liby Johnson, executive director of Gram Vikas, discuss why disaster preparedness is about more than just building back better. What is needed is an inclusive model of sustainable development that prioritises the well-being of all citizens.
"Disasters will come each and every time. We cannot stop them completely. The first part is that we should train people to face any kind of difficulties. In Kerala, we are training volunteers to face such calamities. During the floods, thousands of youths got training and they actively participated in saving people. Another thing is that they should know how to build houses or they should have proper places to move to before the calamities. And we should have some permanent shelters or permanent places to protect the people during floods and hurricanes. For pandemics or diseases, we should train people in early detection of the diseases. Even in the primary sector, we are improving our hospitals by adding laboratories to detect pandemics earlier; we are examining all cases such as influenza-like illness and also the COPD; we built very good laboratories and primary health centres. People can also check for non-communicable diseases, such as blood pressure or sugar. And we are making people aware about pandemics and diseases". - KK Shailaja
"So what is resilience? Resilience is basically long-term development; it’s my ability to withstand the shock of that event. People don’t have bank balances; a lot of their wealth is in perishable stocks, such as food items, for instance. And the difference between the family that has a bank balance and one that doesn’t is very stark. We have to go back to the basics of development and remove this aura around disasters as being something very different. And as Shailaja Teacher mentioned how Kerala has been doing it (and you see that in action at the panchayat level), there is a need to take it step by step and look at overall well-being as the issue, and resilience as one of the features of citizens’ overall well-being. I think that is how we will need to approach it rather than reacting or responding to an immediate disaster situation". - Liby Johnson
The episode was produced by Maed in India.
"Disasters will come each and every time. We cannot stop them completely. The first part is that we should train people to face any kind of difficulties. In Kerala, we are training volunteers to face such calamities. During the floods, thousands of youths got training and they actively participated in saving people. Another thing is that they should know how to build houses or they should have proper places to move to before the calamities. And we should have some permanent shelters or permanent places to protect the people during floods and hurricanes. For pandemics or diseases, we should train people in early detection of the diseases. Even in the primary sector, we are improving our hospitals by adding laboratories to detect pandemics earlier; we are examining all cases such as influenza-like illness and also the COPD; we built very good laboratories and primary health centres. People can also check for non-communicable diseases, such as blood pressure or sugar. And we are making people aware about pandemics and diseases". - KK Shailaja
"So what is resilience? Resilience is basically long-term development; it’s my ability to withstand the shock of that event. People don’t have bank balances; a lot of their wealth is in perishable stocks, such as food items, for instance. And the difference between the family that has a bank balance and one that doesn’t is very stark. We have to go back to the basics of development and remove this aura around disasters as being something very different. And as Shailaja Teacher mentioned how Kerala has been doing it (and you see that in action at the panchayat level), there is a need to take it step by step and look at overall well-being as the issue, and resilience as one of the features of citizens’ overall well-being. I think that is how we will need to approach it rather than reacting or responding to an immediate disaster situation". - Liby Johnson
The episode was produced by Maed in India.