How VIKING Language SOUNDS (real history)

#shorts

#norse #viking #lordoftherings #history

[wrrryy-gamoo]

"in hopes to bring back the Viking culture in full swing"
the entire UK: 👁️👄👁️

[unbanned]

We should stop calling them vikings if they aint raiding.

Its like calling an englishman a knight or a soldier.

[ShadowValleys]

"tHiS iS eLfDaLiAn"

*Proceeds to play a recording of Old Swedish:*

[shindofaniglandtrommestad]

as a norwegian i can kinda understand what their saying, its very similar to swedish

[randymarshislorde]

"Trying to bring back the Viking culture in full swing" 😅 how about we just bring back SOME parts of it and leave off the raiding and pillaging and burning of towns and whatnot?

[Foureye]

In order to hopefully spread some actual information I thought it might be worthwhile to go through what this video gets wrong

Firstly: Elfdalian is one word, and doesn't have anything to do with elves, it's simply a latinization of "älvdalska", which is the Swedish word for the language. That word in turn comes from the area where it is spoken, älvdalen, which simply means "river valley".

Secondly: Elfdalian isn't a "viking language", it's a descendent of old norse like all the other scandinavian languages. That is not to say that it isn't interesting or worth preserving, it absolutely is. It is very interesting linguistically as it combines aspects of old east norse (the ancestor of Swedish and Danish) and old west norse (the ancestor of Norwegian and Icelandic). Elfdalian also preserves some features that have since disappeared from the other scandinavian languages, one example is that it has three grammatical genders instead of the two in Swedish.

Thirdly: People aren't "trying to revive the language in hopes of bringing back viking culture", rather they're trying to preserve their traditional regional language/dialect

Fourthly: Describing Elfdalian as almost being "wiped out" is overly dramatic, especially with the accompanying images. The video makes it seem like it's the result of some bloody struggle, when reality is a lot more dry. Elfdalian isn't officially recognized as a minority language in Sweden but rather considered a dialect of Swedish. This means that schools won't teach elfdalian but "standard" Swedish. This, in addition to increased linguistic homogenization across Sweden due to increased movement and mass media, causes people to stop using and learning Elfdalian. (Also I can almost 100% guarantee that the viking reenactors on screen when the video talks about keeping the language alive aren't from Älvdalen)

Fifthly: The video states that Elfdalian is "radically different from Swedish", as if it were an undisputed fact. I'd disagree. I'll leave the exact distinction between language and dialect to the linguists, but it is clear that Elfdalian and "standard" Swedish are related, closely enough for some to consider Elfdalian a Swedish dialect. From the short example in the video I (a Swedish speaker from Västergötland) can understand most of what is said, loosely translated to : "..here we would want to, by the grace of God, sit with..."

[kungalexander]

“Bring back the viking culture in full swing”
Ok that is a little bit too much

[saxorsaxofon]

its actually a county in sweden called Älvdalen, and The languige is Älvdalska

[thatone_bot]

When you find out that your roots and ancestors were Vikings

[dan]

What you played at 0:41 is not Elfdalian, it's the beginning of this Old Swedish text:
Hǣr viliom wī medh Gudz nādhom sighia medh faam ordhom aff thø̄m hælgha Gudz martire Sancto Ĕrīco, som fordum war konungher ī Swērīke. Bādhe aff ǣt ok ædle han war swā fast aff konunga slækt som aff androm Swērīkis høfdingiom. Sidhan rīkit var v̄tan forman, ok han var kiǣr allom lanzins høfdingiom ok allom almōganom, thā valdo thē han til konungh medh allom almōghans gōdhwilia, ok sattis hedherlīca ā konungx stool vidh Upsala.

[JDfacts-rq]

Vikings be pillaging again but with viking guns

[joeson]

Coming back on ALL Ikea furniture assembly INSTRUCTION

[chaaps]

NORDIC. viking was a profession. nordic is the culture.

[kalleswediboyy]

Modern swedish have evolved very much since we spoke old norse but i can hear many similarities between old norse/swedish and elf dalian. Also the place were they speak elf dalian is more western in sweden closer to the norweigan border and therefore they have a another dialect.

[Southern_Crusader]

Preserving Scandinavian culture is great, associating it with Viking culture is probably not a part of that. If it is, I can think of a few world powers who would have something to say about that.

[TheMilkMan]

The Norse spoke Old Norse. The closest language we have today is Icelandic. Many of us speak Icelandic. Elfdalian is very very conservative and was only a small spoken dialect even of its day. It developed due to isolation, but because of this it developed in ways that then seperated it from the other germanic languages that stem from Old Norse. Icelandic on the otherhand kept up before it was isolated. Once isolated it then became essentially frozen in time and is so close to Old Norse that I can read much of the original translations of sagas. I can not however understand Elfdalian. Both languages did keep some parts of the Old Norse root. Icelandic kept the Proto-Germanic voiceless sonorants, and interdental fricatives. Elfdalian kept the Proto-Germanic nasal vowels. Elfdalian does not have the vowel shifts that Icelandic has though.

[mdit]

Forest in Sweden… sounds like a midsommar sequel starting

[OdinSmilesRavensLaugh]

Viking cosplayers in Swedish Woods! I've fkin heard it all now

[adamzitsch]

The people living there probably are keeping a strong connection to odin

[anuszharmat]

Sounds like a finnish npc that sells you food, beer and car parts