Baselines in Real-Time PCR -- Ask TaqMan®: Ep. 5

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It's the stuff we see before our actual signal from amplification gets high enough to overcome that noise. And, as the rather impolite adjectives I used a second ago would suggest, it's completely useless to us. This noise does have an effect on our curves. Our job is to minimize that effect by effectively subtracting out the noise. We do that by establishing what's known as a baseline -- a cycle-to-cycle range over which only noise can be seen, prior to the appearance of curves. Once established, the software will effectively subtract out the noise on a well-by-well basis, greatly improving the quality of our data.
Let's switch the Y-axis to linear scale for a moment to illustrate the effect of baseline subtraction. Here's our data prior to baselining. Note how every sample begins from a slightly different spot on the Y-axis, causing our geometric phase data— this curvy part over here when we're in a linear scale— to look horrible. But once we subtract noise, every sample begins from the same point 0. And as a result, the data clean up nicely.
The value we get after normalizing for background noise is something called delta-Rn. If you ever look closely at a log-scale amplification curve— the one we're used to seeing— you'll notice that delta-Rn is what's graphed on the Y-axis.
But before you go, just note that there are two ways to set baselines in Applied Biosystems® real-time PCR software: manually, and automatically. If you do it the manual way, you set the baseline range under Analysis Settings. You either set it for a single assay, in which case all wells for that assay get the same subtraction . . . or you can go under Advanced Settings and set wells individually.
Better yet, just use the default setting of Auto Baselining. With this selected, the software figures out how much noise needs to be subtracted from each well individually, and, as such, generally produces the best results.
So why have a manual feature? Well, Auto does fail on occasion, especially with some SYBR® Assays and non-standard chemistries. You'll know auto has malfunctioned by the shapes of your curves. If they look more S-shaped than they should, it could be that auto has misapplied the baseline and set the End cycle too low. As a result, not enough noise is being subtracted, and the curves take on a strange shape. To fix the problem, switch over to manual mode for that assay and raise the End cycle until the curves take on a regular shape.
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A video like this is worth 10 pages of heavy documentation, which is often incomplete and inconsistent. Priceless. Want more!

athief
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Thank you, TaqMan®! You saved me from repeating my qPCR _and_ thought me some fundamentals in your software. I watched other videos of your previously. Love your work!

quickbeam
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This video is incredibly helpful. Best one 👍

marinakapisheva
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thank you sooo much for the simple explanation

asmahammouda
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I am setting baselines to normalize my Ct values. Should I manually choose an end cycle where all of the plots for my target converge or relatively at the same point?

christopherbenton
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Is there a video that explains the data that I get in an exported xls-file? Because I don't have the qPCR software on my own computer, this is all the data I've got. I don't have the serial number of the machine I used because I don't have access to it any more, but have emailed the company for an alternative download. No reply yet though (~1 week ago). Thanks for great videos!

Soldier
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Thanks for your reply. Lifetech emailed me yesterday and I can now download the program.
I used SYBR-Green with L29 & L15 reference ribosome-genes to identify Vibrio bacteria from biofilm samples. The result I'm trying to get out of it is the number bact/sample & the original number of CFU (Colony forming units) per area of biofilm. So how do I go about interpreting the results that the qPCR 7500 model gives me to answer these questions? (A collegue is working on FISH results to corroborate).

Soldier
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Hello,
I am struggling with the Ct values I got from my lab.
For my gene of interest I got no amplification for the negative control cells, for the test cells I got 30.935 and control cells 33.759. For my reference gene I got 30.310 for negative control, 28.260 for test and 28.022 for control. I got wrong results since the negative control where there should not be amplification and the ct values are too high. However I need to calculate the delta ct for test (I got 2.67) and for control (I got 5.7) to compare house keeping and gene of interest. But what do these values really tell me? And for the double delta Ct I got 8. What does it mean?
I hope to have a reply from you soon!!
Best wishes,
Natalie

sdikwella
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goo day! this episode is helpful.. however, i have some concerns.. i did qpcr to determine the gene expression of cytokines in different treatment groups... when i ran my samples, most of it are flagged saying exponential algorithm failed. when i look at the amplification curve, its unacceptable... shall i discard my experiment? and repeat the process?

laladoysabas
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Hi ...i need to check the expression of some genes can you do a tutorial on how to assign samples qnd target genes? it is really confusing especially when you have triplcate for each sample..

rawanalalshiekh
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Hi
1. Iam Using SSIV for cDNA preparation. What is the max conc of RNA that can be used in a 20uL reaction setup when using SSIV?
2. What is the maximum vol/Conc of cDNA that can be used in a 10uL qPCR reation?
3. Iam doing relative expression studies for some cytokines and could able to see the flags reporting exponential algorithm failure. How to resolve this problem?
Need some

ratnakarreddy
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Why there is exact count of cycles in every test needed

shailajarapelli
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Hi, please some one helping me, I already extracted RNA from the colorectal rat tissue then CDNA, the concentration of my RNA was 15.12 ug/ ul. Then I want to express PPAR genes, but I did got any Cq value for target gene just I have the Cq value for my keeping house gene. The concentration of rna in CDNA also high. Please help

laylaqasimismael
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I am attempting to determine a male plant from female plant by locating the Y-chromosome in a qPCR Machine. Right now I am still searching for the knowledge to do so. My question is, do you think this will be possible with a PCR machine? And have you ever done something like this?
Thankss!

respectalllife
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Hi,
In my standard curve experiment, in the graph of delta Rn vs # of cycles,  I don't find the plateau phase. even if I have put 45 cycles, the run completes without reaching the plateau phase. I see only linear and geometric phase. Please suggest me what I can do and what is the possible reason for this.

cookingaajkal
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Hey TaqMan, how can I visualize my (running) experiment in QuantStudio, if I have closed the software by mistake? Thanks

princOSwat
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Sorry, I don't have the software version but it was running on WinXP.

Soldier
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do you have a software that is compatible with macbook?

laladoysabas
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How much dna quantity required for sequencing after RT PCR

kiranjora
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Can you explain about undetermine ct ?

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