3 In 1 Universal Sheet Metal Machine - steel box pan folder, shear and roller review

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Watch Joshua De lisle AWCB walk you through the creation process with his welded and hand forged works of Art and Luxury items.

In this episode we review the 305Mm 3 In 1 Universal Sheet Metal Machine,box pan folder bender, shear and roller metalworking machine from VEVOR.

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[joshuadelisle]

PLEASE READ BEFORE COMMENTING!!
I admit I abused this machine before conducting a test that was to the specification limit first. The reason is I'm used to industrial machines that have a width limit which also changes with differnt thicknessses. so 1mm thick steel at 305mm width (8") is the limit but in theory that means it should also do 3mm at 30mm I was wrong. The blade cutting angle is also something I should have taken note of as thicker material requires a steeper angled blade.

The main point I wanted to make is to not use this machine past its recommended material thickness and that it has built in limit features such as the small handle to make sure you don't over do it. Thanless your a tool abuser like me and then you'll waste your money and time.

I understand that the sensible people amung us will rate their machine because they use it responsibly. However for the heavy handed few I recomend investing in a heavier duty or self build version that can be easily fixed if broken.

Please speak nicely to one another and that everyones points and perspectives are vallid.

Cheers J

[robertturner]

shame we didn't get to see how it handled the appropriate thicknesses of steel before you tried the 3mm!

[timandrew]

Nice one. Thanks for breaking one of these. Saves me having to get one and do it.

[petegrainger]

I am amazed it managed to bend 3mm steel so well. I have cut 0.5mm stainless on my 600mm machine. It requires careful setting up or it just folds it rather than cut it.

[felixcat]

I bought the Katsu brand version from Aim Tools when they had a sale and paid £200, brand new, boxed, delivered.

I did have a requirement to fold titanium sheet which I thought may strain the machine, so I bought a Smithfield 400mm hydraulic brake rated for 5mm steel.

The Smithfield hydraulic brakes is made in the UK and is lightyears better in every way than the imported machines!

[Equiluxe]

You can repair that casting by bolting a couple of straps to to it, When I retired and closed my workshop I sold my six foot guillotine to a friend who decided to place it on uneven concrete and then tried to cut some ten mm bar when the machine was only rated to 1/8 inch over six foot, he broke the thing in two on the bed. I bolted it together for him using a piece of steel ten by one inch over the length of the bed and once the blades were adjusted it worked as well as before. I recently looked at the Vevor lathes but in the end decided I was better off getting an old Myford that need some restoration, its a bit small compared to what I used to have, that weighed five tons and had a seven kilowatt motor on it but no room in my garage.

[LSturboguy]

I was thinking of buying one of these as they would be very handy doing what you made me think it could be worth buying as using the correct tolerance would be jus fine, im a machine tool fitter retied now due to an MBA I remember getting called out to Electrolux to look at their guillotine as something was wrong with it, it was full size max 3mm when I got there the left side of the thing was broken clean through I said how did that happen, got the I don't know we were just cutting some sheet I went around the back of the machine looked at their off cut and they were cutting 6mm plate, lol we stripped it down and had the 2 broken side and took them to a welder and was bronzed back together and to this day 20 years later, its still cutting just fine, so I would suggest go go have it bronzed back together by a good boiler maker I have no doubt you could do the same and will be fine

[Scott_A]

Great video but as others have said, maybe test within the specification first before doing the destructive tests

[Betatrials]

Ive had mine for over 12 years not a problem

[bigoldgrizzly]

I bought one of these about 15 years ago for £20 from a guy that almost never used it. It continues to give me great service for the kind of work I do in light sheet materials [mainly sub 20 thou spring steel]. Your treatment of this machine reminds me of the pointless piano smashing competitions we used to see at village fairs. Not exactly a fair review

[flatbrokefrank]

Yes machine mart sell one with the Clark label, the 300mm version has a limit if 1mm so 3mm would be pushing it - then i read your comment !

[fragglepoop]

I looked at those things for years wondering if I should .. glad I didn’t . .. I bought a Gabro box pan folder and a gabro shear instead .(cuts 3mm endlessly ;) you can literally cut a as long a sheet as you can buy ) Which I highly recommend. I eventually sold my box pan, was an Awsum very versatile machine tho . And almost wish I hadn’t sold it . But got a pneumatic press brake now and manual Ketona . But still things I could do on the gabro they won’t do 🙈🙄🤷‍♀️. .. great video as you did exactly what I would have done 🤣🤣 find it’s limits followed by huge crack 👌

[melgross]

One reason I never bought one of these machines from anyone, is because they’re only good for very thin steel and even thinner stainless. For me, at least, that’s marginally useful. If a machine can’t do at least 16 gauge, it’s not useful enough. Of course, if he paid for this himself, he wouldn’t be trying any of this. I just don’t understand why people think they have to do this nonsense. When a machine has a rating and you stay within those specs, it will likely last forever. If you need a machine for heavier work, you pay the high price that it will be.

[misterfixit]

I have one of those 12" 3-in-1 machines so while I was in the shop tonight I checked it out and indeed, the cutting blade has almost no cutting angle on the blade. This works well cutting sheet metal as it leaves almost no burr on the edge but with thick metal, you need a good angle to cut through the metal. Try cutting through metal with 2 square edges. The other type of metal shear that cuts through 1/4" flat bar has a very steep angle on the blade, like scissors. One problem with more angle is that when you cut, it pulls the blade forward into the bottom blade as the blade acts as a wedge against the material. This can cause excessive wear on the bottom blade. if you wanted to cut heavier material you would need to regrind the top blade.

[skysurferuk]

Welding that cast steel bed, you'd be better using a 316L stick, after prep. Works well, no preheat required on something that small. I've got one of those folders, & found it to be useful for me (hobbyist, now, Boilermaker retired). The backstop is useless & unusable, I have to get really creative if I want one. Good content, thanks for posting, you animal! 🤣

[clydedecker]

Thank you Joshua. You have pointed out the fallibility of man. We all think we could push it a bit more ... and ... well we shouldn't have done that.... It does point out that the manufacturers are trying to make something you CAN use as long as you follow the guidelines.

[Moondog-wcvm]

I like that this was a (partial) destruction test. People who need the machine within it's normal tolerances could look at this and make the best decision they can within their budget, and people who want to go beyond the tolerance can choose to look for a stronger machine at a higher price point. By my perception this is a very honest and accurate review. It will help anyone who listens to the good advice it offers. If you ignore the good advice and still order the product hoping it will support you beyond tolerance, then may your deity of choice help you because you will be dissapointed.

[alanhay]

Really enjoyed the test to destruction. You need to be able to repair these machines. Bearings and handle l destroyed, but was able to replace these with a better setup. Still use it but like you the shear didn't work for me

[carljacobs]

I've had one of these (probably not vevor) for over 10 years, and I've bent and sheared a heap of stuff without issues. I stopped when the handle didn't want to cut / bend - which seemed like a reasonable limiting point. I've never bolted mine down, as it seems pointless for such a light duty machine.

Now that I think of it, a wood chisel could be used as a high torque flat blade screwdriver - how about testing it?

[PNWPrototyping]

No surprise you broke it with 3mm steel. That's what, 10 gauge? I have the nice 400lb Grizzly version (much bigger) and it's only rated for 20 gauge steel. 18 gauge copper, I believe.