Fire and Frost Mage Buffs Next Week! Convo & Expected Gains

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I just hope they'll make some minor adjustments to the spellslinger mechanics at some point to make it feel less oversaturated with procs. Frost procs barely even feel satisfying to get anymore because of how many of them you get plus how much they overlap with each other. So many FoF and WC procs that all overlap. The fact that even spells like GS & piss beam are barely worth using during CDs even after them getting a 15%+ buff just shows how much of a failed design Frost has become.

But I feel like I'm alone with this opinion. I prefer MoP-WoD style proc gameplay where you still cast a fair amount and where gaining a FoF & Brain Freeze proc actually felt really satisfying because it happened less frequently. The more often something happens, the less special it feels. And Frost (Fire too) has reached that point big time where none of the procs feel FUN anymore and instead feel like a necessity.

QPoily
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As someone stubbornly sticking to frostfire, I welcome this. :D More pls though

rayc
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If they're promoting GS so much, at least let us have the Glacial aoe splash dmg that we had in DF :__:, otherwise our only playable build really clashes with Spellsinger Hero Tree

nethrim
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Spellslinger is growing on me. It's nice to have 4 orbs out.

joshuawoodard
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I hope they buff the FrostFire hero talents and play around casting frostfire bolt, If they could bring back the 2% damage spell insead of 1% which is really bad. They did nerf it on the beta and now the spec is bad performing in PVE. The visual of this spec is so cool hope it can be good performing again

BelzeSensei
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I stubbornly still hold the opinion that FF is not that behind SS, and a lot of SS is sim bait. Will be curious to see how logs progress in the next ~2 weeks. Agreed that Fire is sleeper and just suffering from coming out of launch very weak

Swtch
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Splinterstorm randomly applying winter’s chill is so annoying I can’t wait until that goes away. I wish they did that right now.

mellowsunset
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For the frostfire that did 100k dps (lower than aug) - this is for you

Max-dvkq
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hi im returning to the game and planning to gear my mage, i love both fire and frost mage. which spec do you think will have easier rotation and for damage wise frost or fire will be ahead? thanks in advance

ChristianSuminto
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I thought frostfire was doing more dmg recently. Has that changed?

QuestPlays
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Play sistema now id too much random, Hope glaciale Spike come back in rotation

TheGaudente
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So... i wish frost got good again but also wasent so stupid to play

zylle
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Manastorm honestly with bis gear + really good skill what do you think is better for m+ frost or arcane not averge skill Really high good skill

othmanalmesbah
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Would it be possible for you to make a quick guide on the flamestrike build by used by Khaelst?

When to flamestrike and when to pyro

Darebi
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Never i play glacial spike i hate this spell

fabienmaire
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People, question. If spellslinger is basically using orb + ice lances, doesnt make haste completely useless aside global cd reduction? If everything is instant cast, crit and mastery are way more relevant for m+, or am I missing something?

gatopan
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They really need to stop trying to force us play Frost. Braindead spec that keeps getting buffed.

TBxMASTERx