WHICH IS BEST? Ranking Mage specs based on current Beta tuning - World of Warcraft: The War Within

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[SupportTheseBands]

You've always been one of the best and most consistent guide/content creators for mage in the past, but damn dog you really stepped it up to a new level this cycle. Appreciate all you're doin to keep the community informed and playing well.

[joeljohnson]

I think frost will be favorable because of its simplicity when dealing with cost opportunity DPS loss from unplanned movement. Right now in pre-patch, it’s hard to do consistent competitive dps to many melee dps class in M+ because their margin of dps loss is a lot less. Especially if your tank is dragging huge groups through a hallway in a string. A caster cannot do optimum damage in those scenarios by spamming insta procs…but will frost SS, you can and have it be near optimal.

[Daimyo-]

Thanks Preheat for being the #1 premium Mage content creator and theorycrafter on youtube

[Stevemcnash]

All I want is to be able to play Spellslinger Arcane in +12 keys, my late tier CE guild, and not be totally griefing them. I LOVE the playstyle and just pray Blizz brings Sunfury closer to that 1.4mil dps mark. I'm okay with Spellslinger be less optimal than the more difficult Sunfury rotation, just not so much that I'm trolling my friends by playing Spellslinger

[KaiObelisk]

Arcane Mage Sunfury is a tall poppy and its going to get pruned.

[mellowsunset]

Thanks for the guide! Very useful. I’m always puzzled on why frost mages love when their damage is holed up in glacial spike instead of ice lance given how immobile glacial spike makes you. I’ve never liked it when glacial spike is the meta/most of your damage because it turns you into a turret. Aggressively tuned ice lance does just as damage but makes you magnitudes more mobile. Arcane and frost looking fun as it stands!

[Jessetenfour]

Always by far the best mage-guide videos out there. Appreciate you!

[Arntor-kfhi]

Damn they really crushed fire in all forms of content. Bottom of the barrel for pvp, m+, and raid

[kingfip]

I'll never understand why people think that if something isn't meta, that it needs to be dogshit (referring to comments, not the video). Fire has been really good for a while but that doesn't mean it needs to be dumpster fire tier as compensation 💀just make it average or slightly above average and no one would complain

[nabbrusc]

They ruined living bomb. Its incredibly sad to see how absolutely gutted it is.

[rtemtrubin]

Reading all the talents when they first got announced no way in the world I would expect a Sunfury Arcane mage to be on top.

[TheGuitaryman]

I hope they buff fires damage a bit. Its so much fun to play with how it works now. Just needs the numbers to match

[naustix]

Hopefully arcane is good in m plus. Love sending orbs and barrages into mobs

[thewinkingwizard]

Why do so many subscribe to the idea that there has to be bad specs? Buffing fire doesn't make Arcane/Frost obsolete. It just gives mages more options. I'm playing Fire regardless, but it just seems silly to campaign for a spec to be nerfed into oblivion.

[timhundhausen]

Overall for the first couple of weeks, if I wanna push keys with my team would you say playing fire is "worth" it due to current tuning or should I invest my time into learning Frost/Arcane? Really wanna play Fire but don't wanna hold my team back due to pigheadedness

[hunterbell]

Let's hope they just adjust the Hero talents for SF Arcane and not mess with any of our ability damage. Would just push SS down even further. Also, if SF Arcane is harder to pick up I hope it stays ahead. They just need to bring up the other mage specs imo and not nerf Arcane more than they already have.

[christophervelasquez]

I'm down for Fire to be in the dumps for a bit it has had plenty of time to shine, Arcane prob needs to be tuned back a bit but not gutted, it should have its time to be the best mage spec and I can't comment on frost really becasie I am a frost main buy I ma glad it seems to be doing well atm

[Ash-vimt]

dont know why, but I love my frost at this moment (for PVE)

[dadbodrockstarOG]

Why is there such a huge dependence on GS for frost? With everything else you can use and do, a big cast time like that seems like a waste for not the biggest payoff overall.

[rehmsmeyer]

Frost rotation is so simple it allows you to pay attention to mechanics and delegate the rotation to the autopilot part of the brain.