Epyc 7713 vs Threadripper Pro for a Workstation?

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[dalavitang]

I had to build a video editing workstation when TR Pro was only available via Lenovo, and P620 was way over budget. I really needed the PCI-e connectivity (Graphics card(s), video I/O card, fibre networking, potentially HBA), so I went with the TYAN 8030 and EPYC. The way I resolve the USB issue is to use a single slot PCI-e x16 to 4x4 breakout card (through four SFF-8643 connectors) and add two USB controllers for 8 additional USB ports. Not elegant, but works fine for me.

[EionSmith]

Nostalgia for when you were just a voice behind a monitor <3

[mn]

Hey Wendell, following you since the tek days. You made a huge difference in my life man. I always loved computers, but nobody explained motherboards like you. You and Allyn from pcper are the two people who reminds of what youtube ought to be.

Can we get a guest episode with you and Allyn sometime ?

[lejeffe]

ordering mine now i curently have a ws z390 pro. i like my lanes so ill be going 64 cores. over a 9900k thank you for the in formation.subscribed!

[DigitsUK]

Thank you so much for making this video - I'm really torn between the TR Pro and 7443P for my next machine, but TBH either would be a massive upgrade from my current Epyc 7281 'Rackstation'!

[GuillaumeVerdonA]

I want to see multi-GPU deep learning workload on this board

[virtualinfinity]

I actually use an EPYC as a workstation (ROMED8-2T) and I kind of can support your point. However, I like my systems to come in simple. There is no chipset at all on the EPYC board and you'll just find the X550 NIC and the ASPEED 2500 BMC plus an additional USB controller.
However, I do have M.2, OCUlink, Sata and 7 PCI-e x16 slots. So I get some decent storage options, everything else is done by adding PCIe cards. And this is exactly how I like it. I use the system heavily for infrastructure simulation (using virtualization and nested virtualization), so I prefer to select my add-in cards based on features, like SR-IOV, function level reset capability and whatnot.
Threadripper Pro with these motherboards (Gigabyte has a nice one too) is a very attractive option, but you suffer a complete lack of low-end SKUs CPU-wise. Some people start with a decent system but an entry-level CPU to get going and later on swap CPUs when cheap options become available on Ebay&friends. I did that for the last two decades on my systems. There are several low-cost "low-end" SKUs for EPYC but literally none for Threadripper Pro.

[daveg]

Earlier this year 2023 I looked at TR, TR-Pro, Epyc, and Intel Xeon W for a new workstation. TR-Pro is too expensive in Canada and now old tech PCIe4/DDR4, Epyc is server and doesn't have the I/O available on any boards like I want. So I went with the Xeon W. W7-2495X 24C 48T, ASUS WS Pro W790 ACE, 512GB DDR5-4800 ECC RDIMM, ASUS ROG STRIX RTX-3090. Awesome system.

[TrainingWithKona]

First five seconds - truer words have never been spoken

[romevang]

When you say WRX... I think of the Subaru Impreza WRX. Gets me everytime.

[esunisen]

This video needs a v2.0, WRX90 vs SP5/SP6

[dearheart]

Thanks for an excellent vidieo. The point at the end with the airflow is very important. I am planning to use my old full tower cases and build an "epyc" Threadripper-pro workstation for the workload I have in the pipeline. The 10 gbit interfaces will also be put to use! - apropos airflow, and my very sensitive ear/brain (tinnitus and more)- I am considering to get waterflow and an external radiator outside the window to take the heat!

[Ignacio_Mullor]

The thing I'm more concerned about my Threadripper 3990x is that for some cpu intensive workloads only uses half of the cores. (1 numa) and the other does nothing at all.
I've been told this is windows 10pro fault... but I'm not sure if upgrading to windows 10pro workstation could improve that or what... Or it is because that is how the 3990x works.

Would this be less of a problem in the new threadripper pro?
Would change to windows 10pro workstation fix anything at all for me?

[hockeylad]

Great products, but the ever present stock, availability, and price for the AMD stack remains a problem. It's a huge barrier to entry for just in time deployments in enterprise IT. We bought some 9800x last week because it was just... available for 400 dollars with a 200 dollar MB option. 40 PCIE lanes for that price is the real value proposition.

[synthetic]

Yes please... I’m curious to eee how they would perform for audio workstation use.

[isbestlizard]

I'm very happy using my epyc 7702P i got super cheap with an asrock epycd8-2t as my workstation :D got 256 GB of 2666 ecc memory and 4x1TB nvme's in one of my pcie slots in a 16x to 4x4x4x4 card

[lemmonsinmyeyes]

I would LOVE to see some houdini FLIP simulations on this. Tons of ram, tons of U.2 cache space. Just let it rip wild with millions of particles

[keyboard_g]

Hey Wendell, wondering if you've played with MicroOS Linux? Transactional system and everything is a container. From the Suse Enterprise folks.

[bronekk]

AsrockRack ROMED8-2T also has 7 PCIe Gen4 slots, and works with Epyc Milan (beta BIOS)

[pimpsli]

I think if the TR Pro was unlocked and allowed overclocking it would an easier choice to make.