A Critique of the Millennium | Dispensationalism and Postmillenialism

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The Bible is Very clear on its nature of the ages, there are only two. #Dispensationalism and #Postmillenialism both reject the 2 age structure of the Bible. Enjoy this video of Pastor Emilio Ramos of Heritage Grace Community Church #eschatology

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Glad this is being discussed. With postmil becoming "cool" now sadly people are accepting it so easily because it might sound right on the surface but dont actually dig deeper and see there are holes in it. I've also gotten a lot of escatalogical help from Sam Waldron

iloveamerica
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Premillennial here I would suggest studying Ezekiel 38 paralleled with revelations 20. There are a few scriptures which I believe point to a literal earthly thousand year reign with Christ. Before judgment day which would be the second resurrection

xtatid
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I was talking about the studies in the bibles.

jesusisgod
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So what is the first resurrection in Rev Ch. 20?

Matthew-bupq
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I am sorry I didn't metion I thought u probably knew what I was saying. I was talking about the studies in the book like John, Matthew, Luke,

jesusisgod
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I am still a learning and growing Christian still learning. So I don't really as much know much. I am still a baby Christian. I am trying to learn myself too. Can you please point out how I am wrong. So that I can fix it. When some words I am not really good at reconising. Can you tell me what the word means. I am not trying to point you out or anything like that. It's just with the bible a lot I don't as much understand.

jesusisgod
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I read in KJV I don't know if that's a good book

jesusisgod
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Kdub, sincere question. I remember Voddie B. Presenting the idea that other eschatological views fail to deal with the problem that there is only one second coming of Christ. Thoughts?

jennesset
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I’d comment, but I’m biased toward amil, and Emilio. Thank for sharing.

jennesset
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Good points from pastor Emilio. I still go back and forth between post and a mill.

retrograd
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I am trying to find a bible study that may help me. But I don't know what bible study I should do. Does anyone know what bible study I should study in???

jesusisgod
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I am not asking direspectful just in nice tone. Being honest I don't too much understand.

jesusisgod
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im A Post/amill Partial preterist...

1 Corinthians 10:11
Now these things happened to them as an example, and they were written for our instruction, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.

Hebrews 9:26
Otherwise, He would have needed to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now once at the consummation of the ages He has been revealed to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.

To believe there are only 2 ages ever mentioned, in light of these you can miss the picture, and not addressed properly and consistently and left alone is to leave the full preterist armed with their contentions not left in check, we gotta do more then just say you guys are crazy, its future.. cause they out here and stand firm on exegesis rather then whats appears to be well balanced and reasonable.

i love all amills cause yall make the best points yet are partially right

thisgeneration
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Why wouldn't the millennium be in the present age? Therefore still 2 ages.

thehuguenot
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Hey bro @Kdub, what are the coming "ages" Paul is referring to? Mind you, this noun is spoken of in the plural sense.

in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus - EPHESIANS 2:7

BornTwyce
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Ephesians 2:7 KJB: That in the *AGES* (plural) to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

hereticus
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I would argue that the chart is misleading on both counts. It would be most appropriate to show Pre Mil as a graph that is cratering and Post as a graph that is increasing. I don't need to agree with either position to understand the worldview is not one of a fluid state that is hard to define. One group thinks this is all going to hell and the other to heaven. One sees evil increasing over time and one decreasing over time. As leaning more Post Mil I would also say that our individual walk with Christ should be similar to an increasing chart as we are being made Holy and sanctified. Does our Christian life in this intermingled view look like this supposed 3rd age? Can we not see a progressive move in our own lives as we believe in Christ and His finished work?

banemaler
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Hey bro, I love your ministry but when it comes to Eschatology you guys unfortunately have it wrong. I'm still waiting for the best one of you guys to debate the best of one of our guys. Y'all don't want that smoke. I wonder if Pastor Ramos is up for debating Matt Waymeyer; the author of the book - "Amillennialism and the Age to Come: A Premillennial Critique of the Two-Age Model?"

BornTwyce
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Yes u right. But isn't there more information in revelations. I mean know one knows the hour of God's return not even the angels right. Only God knows when he comes. But there is Phrophicey and signs showing us that he is close to coming we just don't know when he is coming.
Luke 21:28

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

jesusisgod
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I thought the two ages is earth-age and heaven-age.

LilacDaisy