Is Intel ARC REALLY Cancelled? - WAN Show July 29, 2022

Timestamps: (Courtesy of NoKi1119)
0:00 Chapters
2:13 Intro
2:42 Topic #1 - Intel's "allegedly cancelled" Arc
6:12 Moore's Law Is Dead's notes on the leak
8:42 Rumored leaks of internal Intel conversations
10:20 Discussing the road map, product releases
12:10 Linus on Intel's Larrabee, comparing to Arc
13:16 Optane removed, LMG & rumors, expenses of a project
17:42 Luke wanted a competitive GPU ft. Linus's theory
19:50 Linus on Alchemist, Tel Aviv tour & silicon costs
23:46 Intel's fab would take long, chipset funding
24:56 LTTStore's Stealth Hoodie Pro
27:13 Backpack to become purchasable by next mid-week
28:20 Deal of the Week - free LTTStore tote bag
29:01 Sponsor - AMD
30:11 Sponsor - SecretLab
31:22 Sponsor - Ubiquiti' ft. Dennis seeing naked Linus
33:22 Topic #2 - OverKill reaches out to LMG
33:48 Explaining the cease & desist
35:28 "I'm not threatening you" was due to harassed wife
36:08 COVID causing delays, website overhaul & orders
37:48 NDA, recording builds for content
38:29 Are Linus & Luke on OverKill's side now?
40:56 Merch Messages #1
41:08 Right-to-repair for LTTStore, screwdriver design, WAN LAN
49:01 Linus testing radio signals
50:54 Linus is planning to go to Backstreet Boys
52:03 Updates on the 64oz LTTStore bottles
52:39 Using the LTTStore desk pad as a bed rug & wall hangings
53:12 Formula E & racing technologies
54:09 LTTStore screwdriver holster
55:08 LTTStore shorts mesh lining, Linus shows prototype belt
56:54 Travel & packing tips
58:52 Monitor is fine, but the PC setup struggles
1:00:15 Preventing companies from killing & withdrawing products
1:02:05 Intel's Arc issues Are the executives misunderstanding?
1:03:48 Linus on having his children continuing his legacy
1:05:40 What LMG does to take care of employees
1:10:25 Silence-oriented internal GPU enclosure
1:12:23 Is Linus afraid of the recession affecting LMG's growth?
1:14:24 Linus Dbranding a house, which design to go for
1:14:54 Use cases of virtual machines for homes
1:17:07 Optical disk drive class-action lawsuit
1:17:50 Particular ChannelSuperFun activity that stood up
1:19:53 CallMeKris's 6-hour video collab
1:24:29 Are certificates like CompTIA A+ needed anymore?
1:25:55 Linus's home & pool progress update
1:27:08 Most risk in growing LMG
1:27:36 Wireless earpods, Apple's AirPods
1:28:48 Dream YouTube collabs that Linus would enjoy
1:29:44 Outro

[NoKi]

Poor streaming PC, holding on via nothing but a misaligned exploded fan.
-Timestamps-
[0:00] *Chapters.*
[2:13] *Intro.*
[2:42] *Topic #1: Intel's "allegedly canceled" Arc.*
> 6:12 Moore's Law Is Dead's notes on the leak.
> 8:42 Rumored leaks of internal Intel conversations.
> 10:20 Discussing the road map, product releases.
> 12:10 Linus on Intel's Larrabee, comparing to Arc.
> 13:16 Optane removed, LMG & rumors, expenses of a project.
> 17:42 Luke wanted a competitive GPU ft. Linus's theory.
> 19:50 Linus on Alchemist, Tel Aviv tour & silicon costs.
> 23:46 Intel's fab would take long, chipset funding.
[24:56] *LTTStore's Stealth Hoodie Pro.*
> 27:13 Backpack to become purchasable by next mid-week.
> 28:20 Deal of the Week - free LTTStore tote bag.
[29:01] *Sponsors.*
> 29:10 AMD suggests pairing Radeon with Ryzen.
> 30:11 SecretLab's TITAN Evo 2022.
> 31:22 Ubiquiti's camera ft. Dennis seeing naked Linus.
[33:22] *Topic #2: OverKill reaches out to LMG.*
> 33:48 Explaining the cease & desist.
> 35:28 "I'm not threatening you" was due to harassed wife.
> 36:08 COVID causing delays, website overhaul & orders.
> 37:48 NDA, recording builds for content.
> 38:29 Are Linus & Luke on OverKill's side now?
[40:56] *Merch Messages #1.*
> 41:08 Right-to-repair for LTTStore, screwdriver design, WAN LAN.
> 49:01 Linus testing radio signals.
> 50:54 Linus is planning to go to Backstreet Boys.
> 52:03 Updates on the 64oz LTTStore bottles.
> 52:39 Using the LTTStore desk pad as a bed rug & wall hangings.
> 53:12 Formula E & racing technologies.
> 54:09 LTTStore screwdriver holster.
> 55:08 LTTStore shorts mesh lining, Linus shows prototype belt.
> 56:54 Travel & packing tips.
> 58:52 Monitor is fine, but the PC setup struggles.
> 1:00:15 Preventing companies from killing & withdrawing products.
> 1:02:05 Intel's Arc issues. Are the executives misunderstanding?
> 1:03:48 Linus on having his children continuing his legacy.
> 1:05:40 What LMG does to take care of employees.
> 1:10:25 Silence-oriented internal GPU enclosure.
> 1:12:23 Is Linus afraid of the recession affecting LMG's growth?
> 1:14:24 Linus Dbranding a house, which design to go for.
> 1:14:54 Use cases of virtual machines for homes.
> 1:17:07 Optical disk drive class-action lawsuit.
> 1:17:50 Particular ChannelSuperFun activity that stood up.
> 1:19:53 CallMeKris's 6-hour video collab.
> 1:24:29 Are certificates like CompTIA A+ needed anymore?
> 1:25:55 Linus's home & pool progress update.
> 1:27:08 Most risk in growing LMG.
> 1:27:36 Wireless earpods, Apple's AirPods.
> 1:28:48 Dream YouTube collabs that Linus would enjoy.
[1:29:44] *Outro.*

[glenisold]

Intel exec expecting ARC to come out the gate roaring in their first gen is ridiculous. You can't beat AMD/NVIDIA with decades of experience without stupendous expenditure and time.

[BurghBeezer]

If Intel ever wants to be in the graphics card business they have to commit, as in 100% all-in for at least 3-4 generations of discrete graphics cards. None of this dip our toe in the water and then back out over and over again before having a real product.

[gaunterodimm]

Intel ARC WILL have growing pains for a few generations, it's pretty much unavoidable because of all the legacy experience and connections the competition has. Intel needs to stay the course if they ever want into the discrete GPU space, otherwise they just completely threw away all the money they spent developing what they have now.

[utubeb]

If Intel really give up that sucks for all of us

[termiterasin]

Intel could have released something equivalent to a 1060, and it would still sell well as long as the price is right. Adding open source keeps it market competitive and droves of open source advocates, the EFF, would adopt it.

[Kamel]

Intel will be making a HUGE financial mistake if they've come this far and back out of the GPU space. It takes monumental startup capital to get something like this launched, so the best option for recovering cost is to keep focused.

[bluehatguy]

Even if Intel's GPUs were not the bleeding edge, I had hoped it might lead to something that used less power and would become available in a fanless low-profile form. At least competition in that space.

[DeinonychusCowboy]

Honestly this shakes my faith in Intel's new "engineer driven" leadership more than anything else, it should be OBVIOUS that if you want to compete in a new market dominated by two giants with decades of experience in that market, it's going to take an absolutely massive investment of time and money, and you're not going to be competitive for years. The C level balking because you're not competitive on day one just implies they didn't understand the assignment.

[Reczack]

Why is youtube recommending a nearly 3 year old WAN show with a disproven title?

[DiscussToUnderstand]

With the amount of feedback about Floatplane on the last community post, it's disappointing that it wasn't really brought up here.

[seifenspender]

Please Intel, continue.
Your engineers seem very passionate and sympathetic! A770 even looks pretty good.

ARC made me really overthink my hostile view towards Intels philosophy - would be sad to lose a competitor in the GPU space.

[ineedyoutostop]

Arc gen 1 was already looking OK, I hope it's not actually cancelled. No it wasn't amazing but they're improving it quick and it's good for some things already. Hopefully if they did cancel anything it just means they cancelled the next gen and they'll keep working on GPU's.

[Reaga]

I wonder if Intel Arc were shooting for mining performance, and when the bottom fell out of that market, panicked and realised they'd have to focus on gaming performance but have been unable to pivot.

[malibuclassic]

I want to know what intel thought was going to happen. Like they were really going to make a competitive card on the first or even 2nd try. AMD had some weak years also, did Intel think they were immune?

[apoclypse]

I’ve always wondered if AMD sent Raja over to Intel as a Trojan horse.

[mjss]

for the Intel dGPUs, even this first gen Alchemist line, I'm personally less interested about gaming performance and wonder how it is from a productivity standpoints specifically in relation to rendering like Vray, Arnold (if it eventually will have support for it), Blender Eevee etc.
As long as the gaming performance is not completely crap and is higher than a GTX 10 Series (comparable to a 20 series), I'm personally open to it consider buying one. But I need something concrete. I personally do mainly CPU Rendering on Arnold Render Engine, so even if it doesn't get support for GPU Rendering, how does it fare when using GPU Acceleration to display 3d and 2d objects in CAD or 3dsmax? Are the drivers also making these have slow refresh rates as well? Something I am personally curious about but I know won't get much feedback from tech reviews because these would need more actual hands on experience from more real world users of the same software I am using myself.

[roneyeam]

I love the echo its Coincidentally timed perfectly

[GareWorks]

I've been looking forward to Arc so I really hope Intel can sort them out. If they can make good discrete GPUs, even if they're not great for the first couple of years, everyone will win.

[Graham]

I had a job that had Flexi-time. It ran month to month and you were supposed to be able to take time off if you needed it and make it up elsewhere that month, or possibly the next month.
The staff didn't think it was a problem as long as you got your work done and hit your deadlines, but it was at the managers discretion and the manager never ever agreed to it. The most bullshit of excuses came out of that man.
"You don't look like you need a break".
"You can't have tomorrow afternoon off, we're starting a new project soon" (soon was 3 weeks away).
"The last time someone took Flexi-time they didn't come in for two days..." (that person literally asked for two days off and to work the weekend and evenings to make it up).