Using a SMART TV as a MUSIC STREAMER

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👉🏻 Into the weeds with TOSLINK, HDMI ARC, Tidal, Plex, Spotify, Chromecast, AirPlay & Roon.

🎥 Camera: Olaf von Voss
🎬 Editor: John Darko
🕺🏻 Motion GFX: John Darko
💰 Ad segment: Jana Dagdagan

🛋 My listening room in 2022:

0:00 Intro
0:50 TOSLINK & HDMI ARC
5:18 Native streaming apps
9:31 Chromecast, Apple AirPlay & Roon
14:24 Sacrifices?

👉🏻 As seen in this video...

HDMI jitter:

What does jitter sound like?

Samsung Neo QLED 4K TV QN90A

XIAOMI Mi Box S:

Google Chromecast w/ Google TV:

NAD M10 V2:

GoldenEar BRX:

GoldenEar Forcefield 3:

#roon #plex #spotify

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DarkoAudio
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THANK YOU!
Very interesting AND VERY WELL explained...
I'm a professional specialist in pedagogy and you do not hesitate, several times to repeat (appropriately) the same info in different manners in different contexts.
So, the whole explanation becomes very clear.
Bravo and thanks again!

philclement
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I love how you’re willing to admit that you don’t notice a difference between streaming from the Samsung and streaming from the M10. It can be frustrating as a beginner when people talk about hearing “night and day” differences between sample rates when you’re just trying to get a handle differences between loudspeakers or amps.

spencerjones
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Apple TV and Apple Music is my go to for lossless playback and control on my TV. Very happy with the results pumping through my STRDN 1080 Sony AMP playing in direct/2 channel through my Kef Q750s. Music sounds as good as it ever has for me and I get to enjoy rich album art and album/artist info.

Gregulah
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Been waiting for this exact video for quite some time and this helps a ton, especially because I can ultimately bypass the TV digital output via roon, while still streaming high bitrate through my streamer. Best of both worlds without worrying about degradation of sq.

SeanSisco
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The NAD M10 v2 can send albums art to the TV through the hdmi port, it mirrors what’s showing on its own screen

CnnonFdder
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Really interesting! Looking forward to the next installment on this topic - it's refreshing to get content about how we use these things in the real world, with TVs and streaming boxes in our living rooms as I'd imagine that most of us don't have dedicated listening environments and need to consider the usability/simplicity and practicality with other household members (wife and 2 kids in my case) whilst scratching our audiophile itches.

JimacGTti
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Thanks John, this is the one video I had been waiting for a long time.

When, at the end of your videos, you ask about whether we like your approach to XYZ, this is it. We like your approach to seriously considering Smart TVs as streamers, and your investigations.

MarcosBernal
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We'll probably never reach "Audio Nirvana" and be happy with every aspect of every element comprising the total auditory experience but in the meantime I'm enjoying this ride with you and you make it so much more interesting!
Thank You! 🙏

TiaanJonker
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Latest Nvidia Shield firmware has a setting 'Match content audio resolution' which bypasses Android's 48khz resampling for HDMI output.

shaunkiely
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Thank you for covering this topic. I have been using my smart TV as my streamer for over a year. The optical out goes to a Schitt Modius DAC. I use Tidal as my music service and have always wondered what the sample rate was with this setup. If mine is 48K, as yours is, I'm quite happy with that. Thanks again. and you have a new subscriber.

williamsmith
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This is exactly what I'm interested in. I'm thankful that someone in the community is shedding light on this topic. I'm personally ditching the surround sound system and building a HIFI "budget" system that integrates the best of 4K Reference fidelity and Audiophile capability in a 2 channel system for an apartment.

JBL 4309 Professional Studio Monitors.
MARANT Model 40N
Panasonic 9000 4K player

The 40n is the best integrated that allows me to interconnect TV, Speakers, CD Streaming and videophile capability in one seemless system. How is it that we are in 2022 and we are still have to run 2 separate systems. Living in an apartment we don't have the space for this but we have the desire to have the best money can buy.

joaquinbarreto
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Great video. We missed you in Chicago. I kept it super simple: I have a fan less PC (like a Nuc) running Audirvana out to Schiit Bi-Frost ect. I only use the TV as a display. That way I get my bit perfect play back and all my album art ect.

edholmwood
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My TV setup is Apple Music on Apple TV > airplay to HomePod as center speaker + 2 x ikea picture frame speakers (stereo pair) on the sides. It supports wireless 24/48 lossless via airplay 2 and sounds surprisingly good👌🏼

bnaqua
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As always, John, you come up with something I haven't thought before. Thank you for that.

chcorreia
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This is the video that I've been waiting for. Thank you, John. I'm using the TV for streaming now with no external DAC (just the TV analogue output) into a tube amp. It's not ideal at all. There's room to improve!

davidkalil
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Dang’ i was just planning on fiddling on my tv to stream as source for my system and here i step on Darko discussing the exact thing just now😂

densyoh
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Another nice and informative video🙂 I much prefer this kind of content to product reviews since I'm more into the technology than knowing how one speaker or piece of electronics performs differently than another.

woodshop-audio
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I know I’m late the party on this video, but damn I learned a lot. Even after 2yrs from publication. Thank you, John!😊

saint_odonnell
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Wet leg love thier tiny desk concert and thier album! They are really refreshing!

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