Were The Loyalist Primarchs Friends? | Warhammer 40k Lore

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00:00 - Intro
00:44 - Roboute Guilliman
05:38 - Lion El' Johnson
08:32 - Corvus Corax
10:46 - Leman Russ
12:40 - Jaghatai Khan
16:24 - Rogal Dorn
17:21 - Vulkan
20:33 - Ferrus Manus
23:14 - Sanguinius
27:33 - Outro

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spongebob meme in the beginning is back, my boi got that job he was applying for

ynpavo
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Fun fact: wolves and ravens are considered friends. Each is willing to help the other, especially when it comes to hunting food and protecting each other.

Book_worm.
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Rogal Dorn being the "you are what you eat" logic with his brothers.

A fuc*ing brick wall.

kederel
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It's weird that Lion El' Johnson considered Khan a close friend and one of the closest of his brothers when Khan doesn't mention his relationship with the Lion at all in his novels.

Sole-Witness
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In my headcanon, Guilliman ordered Cawl to create Phobos pattern of MK X armor because he remembered those three lost simulated battles against Corax.

Ceiling_Gato
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Also Corvus was a liberator of the opressed and weak and Vulcan was their protector, hence they had likely similar ethical views to further boost the good terms they were on.

wumbkurkkusalaatti
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I find it really funny that whenever horus talks about ferrus because he says stuff like "he was the only one who understood the dance of war as well as I do" but the one time we see ferrus he just runs straight into a traitor stronghold and dies

ohnoastein
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*Guilliman:* ''I told you. What did I tell you? Didn't I tell you? Cause I told you. Mmm-hmm. And when did I tell you? A long time ago. And what did I say would happen when I told you? Exactly what just happened.''

pinetree
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I want Corvus Corax back. I can dream.

jaegerbomb
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About Guilliman and Corax, I would in fact go as far as calling them friends. From their interactions in Corax: Lord of shadows, it seems like they genuinely liked spending time together, and upon leaving Ulramar, Corax regretted he could not stay longer.

Narrmo
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Rough quote from Scars, "Guilliman famously thought little of Alpharius. (Bjorn) Knew Russ, less famously, felt much the same."

tomrude
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Ive always read the Emperor using Guillaman for the burning of Monarchia as him giving a warning to Guilliman as well as punishing Lorgar. "This is what will happen to you too if you get too wrapped up in Empire building and forget why I made you"

georgereevesjr
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Just read Corvus’s primer book with the war game simulation and calling them truly good friends is indeed a stretch but as the book points out they are truly brothers. Not just like in the literal sense but Older brother and younger brother. Corvus I believe even calls himself that he acts like Guilliman’s younger brother never achieving what his older brother could but finding his own niche to work in an excel where his older brother can’t.

Corvus is quickly becoming my number 2 of favorite loyalist Primarchs

aarovit
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On the matter of Russ vs Angron, Lorgar actually spelled it out perfectly. "No Angron, you spiteful fool, you did not "win."

randomcenturion
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Fulgrim desperately needed to be perfect, Ferrus Manus desperately needed to be the best and strongest. Interesting little co-dependent relationship they had.

NoName-loym
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I really hope Vulkan is the next primarch to return cuz the current 2 primarch could really use some mental support and hugs

KaziMazi
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Corvus corax is the best primarch left. The only primarch who didn’t have beef with anyone who didn’t deserve it (Konrad deserves it)

MacroLore
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I dunno if they all universally loved each other. But everyone can agree that Sanguinius was the most beloved by his brothers out of all of them.

mr.ashenfire
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I really appreciate the moment after the Horussy and Leman Russ was lamenting on the Lion’s “death”. The lion actually did Leman a solid and never told anyone what happened to the VI’s 13th company and the Wulfen. The Lion even had the footage erased from the record.

That’s a hell of a bro move if I’ve seen one.

denorge
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All of these interpersonal relationships make me even more curious about how the Lost Primarchs fit into the dynamic, because you don't just have a lasting impact on Horus, Alpharius, Jaghatai, Dorn, Roboute, Sanguinius, Russ, and Fulgrim without being immensely integral to the overarching family in some way. All of the aforementioned brothers are so varied in their approach, philosophy, and values, that it seems at least one of the missing two served as spiritual glue to appeal to such a broad array of them.

I'd even bet that some of the serious gaps and shortcomings in some Primarchs' personalities are the result of the Emperor and Malcador psychically CARVING the vital memories of past close friendships out of them. Imagine the thoughts of a beloved sibling being cauterized out of your soul. That would cause genuine damage, make no mistake.

dagdamor