Six Most Cryptic Sayings of Jesus in the Gospel of Thomas

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[sallykalya]

I think the undressing without shame refers to taking off the ego or overcoming it to see your truenature or identity.Very deep and powerful teachings.

[eip]

When the two become one i believe means when the mind (masculine) and the heart (feminine) meet and become one. When you are in sync, in flow you will realize you're the children of the living father

[dfgfdsfsdfsdfds]

the gospel of thomas was originally syriac and probably part of a syriac gnostic community in egypt

[willieluncheonette]

" India knows that a Krishna can be an incarnation of God, although he lives in a palace with every luxury; Buddha can be an incarnation of God although he renounces his kingdom, luxuries, comforts; Mahavira can be an incarnation of God, although he discards even his clothes and lives naked.

India has seen so many ways of people like Jesus that it has come to one conclusion: leave the person alone. If you can learn something from him, good; otherwise there is no harm in paying him respect. Perhaps he is right; and if he is wrong, what are you losing? Giving respect, even to a wrong person, is not bad.

So in Kashmir Jesus was not troubled by anybody. He was not news there. In India such people are not news. Thomas, he sent to the south of India for a special reason. Northern India is very sophisticated, and all these great teachers, Buddha, Mahavira, Krishna, Patanjali, Gorakh, Kabir – it is an unending line – were all born and lived in northern India, for the simple reason that northern India is Aryan.

South India is non-Aryan, it has African blood. Once south India was just part of South Africa; South Africa has drifted away. Now it is a late discovery in geography that continents go on drifting, they are still drifting. The drift is very small, one foot in a year, so you cannot feel it. But continents are continuously drifting, they are not fixed: in thousands of years, of course, much change happens.

It was a great insight of Jesus to send Thomas to South India where it was possible to preach and spread Jesus’ word. In northern India nobody would have bothered about it. Northern India was so full of philosophical reasoning, argumentation; was so sophisticated that Thomas, a poor, uneducated man — who was going to listen to him?

But perhaps South India would be receptive; and it was. The whole state of Kerala is eighty percent Christian; and it is not a new phenomenon – it was Thomas’ work. Goa is completely Christian – Thomas’ body is still in Goa.

It reminds me to tell you of one thing: Thomas’ is the only body, outside Tibet, which is still the same as it was on the day the person died. It has not been preserved by any chemicals, or by any scientific methods. It is one of the rarest phenomena on the earth. Every year the body is brought out of the inner chambers of the church for the public to see.

And I have seen the body, and you can see: it is as if the man has just gone to sleep, and not even died. Yes, he is not breathing, but in two thousand years the body has not deteriorated. Scientists have tried to find out how it is preserved. There is nothing to find because it is not preserved by any preservatives; it is through a long training in yoga and certain breathing exercises that have the capacity to change the inner workings of biochemistry.

For thirty years Thomas practiced yoga. Thomas lived like a Hindu brahmin. If you see a picture of Thomas you will be surprised. What kind of Christian is this? – his head shaved like a Hindu brahmin monk, with a small piece of hair on the top of his head left uncut, the choti. He even wore a thread, yagyopavit, that is only worn by born brahmins. He used only a small piece of cloth just to cover the lower part of his body, the loincloth as it is called.

If you have seen Mahatma Gandhi’s picture you know the cloth that just covers him from his waist to his knees – that’s enough. And in the south they use it just as a wraparound; Thomas used just the wraparound lungi, only up to the knee. And he used the wooden sandals. He looked a perfect Hindu.

He became vegetarian when he was in India. He tried to learn as much yoga as possible and he really performed a miracle. He said, “After my death don’t bury my body and don’t make a grave for me. I have managed to change its inner workings.” It was predicted by Thomas – and that prediction may come true – that his body would remain preserved till the very end of the world. Two thousand years have passed and the body is preserved. Only last year, for the first time, was a little sign of deterioration detected. Perhaps the end of the world is close.

If the man was right about his body, saying not to destroy it, it is going to remain till the very end of the world — and according to many sources the end of the world is coming closer – his prediction may also be true.

Only last year, that was 1984, for the first time a little deterioration appeared. Perhaps by the end of this century the body may have deteriorated completely. Thomas’ prediction is: the day my body deteriorates completely, that is the end of this world."

[EggersEggers-pdte]

I think saying 37 is basically describing grace & salvation through Christ(at least in a sense) reversing or lifting the curse that befell Adam & Eve in the garden. Breaking this curse of mankind being in a fallen state due to sin & ultimately returning to the original creation state of existence on earth.

[ARyRy]

He means when you and your wife become one flesh again instead of two separate

[kennywoo]

If this is considered earlier text, how is it also too late to be reliable ?

[ReyDawid]

Saying 114: does it mean, Marriage?....
Saying 30: does it mean, On Matthew 18:19-20?...
Saying 37: does it mean, John 1:47, and Matthew 18:2-5?...
Saying 3: does it mean, Don't relay on others Look internal and in GOD we will discover the Truth?...
Saying 11: does it mean, He was talking about the end of days, later written the book of Revelations?...
Saying 22: this one combines other Sayings of this Book

If You Learn to read the Zohar and the pure normal not twisted Kabala.. you will easily understand meanings of this code sayings.
Yahshua lived in Galilee he was a Nazarene, at that place they were the Original Kabbalist, that Spoke in Parables, that's one of the reasons people knew he was a Nazarene.

[livingsoulvlog]

Every woman who makes HERSELF a masculine (we have to find our other side as we are all both energetically, make the 2 one) will enter the kingdom of the heart/soul. When you live out of the soul space you become a living holy spirit. THAT is the promise of eternal life beyond reincarnation. You have to be born again of water(soul/ fem) and spirit(fire/male). The seed of the soul has to be brought to life. It's not a 5 minute prayer. It's a process of reckoning the flesh dead which compares itself to the response of everything outside itself for approval. When you know the self it is not, ego for by then ego has perished and you and the father are one.

[harambeharambe]

Jesus is saying lose the ego. Do not see one as a man or woman. Rather than just see them as beings as one we all are one. One universe one God and God is in everyone. But only those who open their third eye which effects helps loses the ego then you’ll know

[truthisbeautiful]

my biggest interest in Thomas is whether the female becoming male - does it have a relationship to Encraitic or the beginnings of hermits and monasteries in rhe 290s? Also whether Clement of alexandria, in speaking of true Gnosis, was a forerunner of monasticism or not? Like our discussion of the Protevangelium of James. And whether Justin Martyr has been influenced by it or not, and whether Taitian founded the Encratitic sect, and whether he taught Clement of alexandria or not, and whether through Origen asceticism become more mainstream or if this is just connecting breadcrubs.

[neilhundtoft]

Regarding Saying #30 - I am with that one.
The Coptic translation of the text here makes no sense, for sure. The best translation of this saying is found in the Greek manuscript fragment found at Oxyrhynchus. Harold W. Attridge's (Harvard University) recent study of that papyrus under ultraviolet light led him to the following restored translation: 'Jesus said, "Where there are three, they are without god, and where there is but a single one I say that I am with him."' This version makes sense and fits well within the general teachings from the Gospel of Thomas declaring that the kingdom of heaven is reserved for the solitary, not for the congregation. (See Sayings #49 and #75 for two more explicit declarations of this truth.) An organization, like a congregation, doesn't suffer from feelings of insecurity, or feel remorse about the past, or fear death. These are the experiences of a solitary troubled soul. It is to such, not to any group, that Jesus brings his message of rest for the soul. Peace and light to all.

[cindygealonetopico]

My dear it is neither cryptic for those who draws near to the Heavenly Father. The Lord Jesus will guide you into all truth. Seek Him diligently so ye may be found. You must remember He is light for in that light also blinds the one in darkness. Be the light my friend so ye may see inside the light.

Blessed be the Lord God Yeshua, Jesus.

[bsimmn]

Everything taugh here by Jesus is SPIRITUAL CONNECTION with who? God is spirit for we must worship in Spirit. The Spirit of life provides us with ONENESS LIKE-MINDED loving each other as ourselves. Life is love and love is life. WhO GIVES LIFE? The Spirit of so we need to examine the thoughts of Christ not as a man but as a Spirit that was within him... When I look at humans I focus on the flesh first but I know it's the Spirit that one has within will I most gravitate to as one with my Spirit. LOVE has no color, gender or even race.. why because LOVE is God who is Spirit.

[meiam]

Sure as hell about to know it one way or another sure as hell passing over ages know ego arrogant masters know that

[ChrisMusante]

I can interpret ALL of the sayings. What I have been given I am not worthy to give, but let it be known that what I have is not a 'sprinkling' but a 'flood' that must be released as an opening of a door. I need to get my subscriber base up or you can call my phone, it is posted everywhere. Shalom.

[zeroexea]

I thought your next video was going to be about miraculous things that happened in your life?

[idolhand]

Q- is Judas Thomas the Judas that turns jesus over to the guards?

[neilhundtoft]

Regarding Saying #114 – “No girls allowed!”?!! Hogwash!!!!
This saying is clearly a scribal addition that is inconsistent with the teachings Jesus offers everywhere else throughout Thomas’ gospel. Compare this saying especially with what Jesus says in Saying #22 regarding who will enter the kingdom. “When you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female… then will you enter the kingdom." (More on this saying later.) Clearly, sexuality is declared irrelevant, if not an impediment, to one’s entry into the kingdom. This final saying is best viewed as a spurious and unrelated scribal note tacked on at some later date. It is important to notice that this saying would never have been recorded unless Jesus had admitted women and welcomed them as equals with all. In the culture of 1st century Israel, no woman would have been given standing to recieve personal instruction by a rabbi regarding the requirements of discipleship. But in Saying #21, when Mary raises just that question, Jesus does not say: “Now don't you worry your pretty little head about such things!!”! Instead, Mary is clearly accorded full standing as a disciple and is given deep instruction. In Saying #61, Salome straight out declares that she is Jesus' disciple. She's so much accepted as a part of the inner circle that she even has standing to be impertinent and to challenge Jesus! “Who the hell do you think you are, mister?!” Salome says there, before Jesus patiently offers his answer with instruction. Jesus knew that in his misogynist society, inclusiveness would be ridiculed and protested, as he laments with the words of Saying #105. “Jesus said, 'Whoever knows the father and the mother will be called the child of a whore.'" Acknowledging and reverencing the female element of divinity would isolate anyone in the culture of Jesus' time. In the profile I've created around Peter, as an irascible, combative guy guy, it looks right on the money to think that the presence of Mary would get his knickers in a twist! But there's no way that Jesus would have patronized Peter's nonsense in the way this saying suggests that he did. I think that we can just drop it! For me, the cherry on the cake is that by dropping this saying from the collection, we get a nice book-ending effect provided by Sayings #3 and #113 at each end of the collection, both declaring the presence of God's kingdom in the here and the now. Peace and light to all!

[anonymanonym]

There are many good reasons to believe the Gospel of Thomas was written by Gnostic believers who allowed their saving trust in hidden, esoteric knowledge to taint their description of Jesus. The text was discovered among other Gnostic works and opens with the words, “These are the secret sayings that the living Jesus spoke and Didymos Judas Thomas recorded.” Salvation is found not in the substitutionary atonement of Christ on the cross (nor in “good works”), but is instead found in the secret, hidden words of Jesus if they are properly and insightfully understood. For this reason, the Gospel of Thomas fails to describe any of Jesus’ historic life and focuses instead on His words alone. This connection between hidden knowledge and salvation (or spiritual enlightenment) is characteristic of Gnostic groups of this era.

The oldest manuscript fragments of the text (found at Oxyrhynchus, Egypt) are dated from 130 to 250AD, and the vast majority of scholars agree that the Gospel of Thomas was written no earlier than the mid-2nd Century. These scholars cite several passages in the text appearing to harmonize verses from the canonical Gospels