King-Song S18 Review

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[Randoman]

Much respect for being honest Adam. This review might hurt King Song and some King Song fans, but it benefits the entire EUC community as a whole. Thanks to people like you the bar has been raised; companies can't be releasing wheels with so many issues in 2020. The review itself was very detailed and very funny. You should cheer up now that it's over - you sounded so sad and disappointed. For you to heal up physically, and mentally, I prescribe: two advil, some sleep, some rest, some relaxation, and as much time as possible on the V11.

[urthpainter]

I'm a S18 owner, and completely agree with this reviews highly critical nature. my wheel arrived with a major manufacturing flaw (the wheel/motor was off center by 3-5mm.) Even after being fixed, it still isn't 100% right, because I think the manufacturing margins are way too high - and the wheel lacks perfect symmetry.

There is a lot of talk about the suspension structure (linkages, bearings, and interior piston), and it appears that this structure doesn't make full use of the shock, and suffers from poor design.

I agree the wheel is easy to overpower - and this gets really sketchy under 50% battery. It is not a wheel to push hard - especially above 25mph.

I also don't like how easy it is to hit the lower pedal parts, and squared off parts on the ground - so much so that I moved the pedals to their highest placement, and added additional padding for better leverage. This put me at a high center of gravity, and more than my other wheels (18xl and MSP), the S18 feels like your way out in front of the wheel while riding (hard to explain), and if you hit sand or loose gravel the s18 has a tendency to twist out from under you, more than my other wheels.


The trolley handle stuff is very well described, and baffling design.

I have had a lot of fun riding this wheel, and it is finding it's place in my small collection of wheels - that being said, I will never buy a first generation KS wheel again.

[Aqzaqa]

I've only heard glowing reactions to this wheel. Now this review changes everything. Even before this review, I'd become cynical of EUC reviews in general, feeling that the reviewers were placating the manufacturer and not being honest possibly because of kickbacks or some perk. Flaws are always glossed over or omitted altogether. Nice to see some honestly. Did something change? From now on I won't buy a wheel until the general public has them in hand and can give honest feedback.

[DaleClark]

That block thing was the best laugh I've ever had on YouTube (maybe you've missed your calling).

[forfun]

Great review Adam. The spanish clip had me cracking up. Good job!

[nowjoel]

For those wondering, the block on 7:40 was redesigned out in the production batch, or basically removed entirely and the video by KingSong was removed. I do like the alternative speed pad on this video. EUCGUY stopped production on it, too bad.

[aa.delite]

You may knock the block out, but your bearings are dead anyway from the box because you're as fool as me to preorder Kingsong wheel. You should disassemble it and change all the bearings if you want really smooth suspension. Throw away that spring washers that damaged bearings and change it to simple washers. Use 10*12*0.2 (or 10*14, or 10*16) washers between double bearings when pressing in. Next buyers should receive a good assembled wheel with some parts physically changed. But those who preorded the wheel... pwned. We have bought alpha version. Not a beta testers, but alpha.

[homemdalua]

Almost a year and a half since this review was done. I know several people who own an S18, just like me. These pointed "defects" have not been confirmed in general. The handle is a very good solution as, built-in, it does not suffer damage when the EUC is dropped. Water resistance is sufficient. The fairing proved to be resistant to the heaviest use. The suspension is praised (and copied by another brand!). The apparent power cord, as far as I know, has never had any problems. It seems to me that the analysis failed. EUC users need to keep in mind that each model is preferably indicated for a type of riding. No one who cares about their knees will practice jumping with a Monster Pro, just as anyone who wants to travel long distances will choose an S18.

[nevilex]

The blocks are there to prevent the big screws around it from over-tightening. (Says Kingsong Representative from FB Chat after I initially felt the suspension was a bit stiff)
Just put it back, screw the sliders back tight, and knock it off again if you need to take it apart for some reason.

[RCDevotee]

Sorry about the broken hand. I hope you have a speedy recovery!

Thanks for the honest review! When the S18 was first announced I was enamored by the looks and didn't like the V11. Fortunately I never put a pre-order on the S18. I was on the group ride when Alien Rides had a bunch of riders try the S18. Everyone hated the wheel and there were many experienced riders that tried it. We even took it on our 25 mile group ride and it couldn't finish the ride due to lack of range. The crazy hills don't help the S18 but none of the Gotways (Nikola, MSX, Monster, etc.) had any problem and they were going very fast the entire time. I was extremely worried about the battery sag on the S18 with that motor and small pack. You clearly showed that is a problem and that can't be easily fixed. I don't know why more people are not highlighting that major flaw.

I know a few people now with the V11 and they absolutely love that wheel. I just picked up a Nikola 100v so I will need to wait a bit for my next wheel. I want to see how the Gotway EX does before making my choice for a suspension wheel. For now, my next wheel would be a V11 or a Veteran Sherman. There is no chance I would consider the current S18.

[euc_world]

Beeping is caused by KS firmware that confirms EVERY command sent to it from app. So every time EUC World connects to a KS wheel, it needs to read some important data and sends few commands to the wheel. Each command is acknowledged by the wheel with a beep. And if your phone will lose connection, after regaining connection this will be repeated. It's not a problem with EUC World, it's an annoying feature of KS wheels and happens with all apps. I asked Jack from King Song to remove beeps in next firmware updates, but... as we know, King Song - to put it mildly - does not always respond to user requests.

[supercurioTube]

Thanks for this safety testing @WrongWay 🙏👍👍
This beep friendly wheel should definitely, before letting you accelerating to near faceplant:
- beep at you on time! This is what beeps are meant for, to let you know to ease off. It beeped then cut off Bluetooth right away.
- keep a power reserve to give you a hard tiltback to force you to decelerate anyway.

Instead, this wheel lets the voltage sag down to oblivion, things like Bluetooth that costs only a few milliamps and allows to diagnose crashes get shut off.
Okay you were using third party pads with more leverage than stock but that's no excuse.

Although you and the wheel managed to recover from the precarious situation, Kingsong messed up the safety implementation here badly indeed.
The S18 is an unsafe wheel until this fault is reworked, fully agree.

[Ubeogesh]

Suspension doesn't mean wheel has to be offroad. Plenty of bumps on road

[addictedtowatts]

Absolutely great review! I greatly appreciate the honest in this review, as well as the laughs lol.
Keep it up, be safe, and Keep it wheel!

[ryanferox]

"I intentionally tried to overpower the machine and use it in an extremely unsafe manor and came to the conclusion that the machine is dangerous"

[SharinganUchiha]

Thanks for the honest review I.m new to riding with about 2 weeks under my belt and was thinking of buying this sometime next year. now I will switch to the RS 19 last thing I need are cut-outs from just acceleration

[jmerlo]

Excellent information, thank you. The KS S18 was the only E-wheel I was considering buying because it looks awesome, but now it is clear that I should wait and see if they do fix those too many ugly issues that make it a rip-off.

[KrzychooPe]

soooo it looks like I'll have to wait for S18v2. Thanks for the review, I've nearly preordered this thing....

[urthpainter]

my KS S18 has found it's place in my collection - it is my night rider. If I have to be somewhere, run a chore, like getting some food at night, the S18 has become my go to wheel.

the one thing I do disagree with this review is regarding the S18 headlight, which is super bright and has a nice angle/spread. It may not be the V11 headlight, but it's still quite good (it is my understanding the v11 headlight can actually be too bright looking straight down while riding at night, and the S18 does not have that issue)

[WHITELIONNYC]

7:56
I'm seriously out here outdoors on a park bench having lunch and I'm crying from laughter. Please more more more stuff like this!!! 💪🏻🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂👍🏻